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    Quote Originally Posted by jpo View Post

    Oh, and I didn't say 13th . . . what?
    Sorry, that was someone else writing a suggested note for you...

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    Sorry, but I can't jump on the "tar and feather Kildare's" bandwagon. granted, he had no business asking, but what kind of response did you expect by actually telling him? When a bouncer asks, red flag should go up, hmmmm? Some communities actually interpret their indecent exposure laws pretty strictly. And there IS a double standard compared to women. Is it right?....nope....but it's there. Noone gets the real answer if they ask me.


    I'd LIE in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csbdr View Post
    Sorry, but I can't jump on the "tar and feather Kildare's" bandwagon. granted, he had no business asking, but what kind of response did you expect by actually telling him? When a bouncer asks, red flag should go up, hmmmm? Some communities actually interpret their indecent exposure laws pretty strictly. And there IS a double standard compared to women. Is it right?....nope....but it's there. Noone gets the real answer if they ask me.


    I'd LIE in that situation.
    Makes me think of a group I have heard about that fights for women's rights to be topless via the 14th amendment and equal protection. I almost wonder what their thoughts would be on this almost analog.

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    I agree with Panache. Contact management and see what happens. Give them a chance to strighten things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csbdr View Post
    Sorry, but I can't jump on the "tar and feather Kildare's" bandwagon. granted, he had no business asking, but what kind of response did you expect by actually telling him? When a bouncer asks, red flag should go up, hmmmm? Some communities actually interpret their indecent exposure laws pretty strictly. And there IS a double standard compared to women. Is it right?....nope....but it's there. Noone gets the real answer if they ask me.


    I'd LIE in that situation.
    I have heard that question as many times as anyone here. Passersby ask me as I walk down the street, bartenders at other (better) bars have asked, as have cashiers at the supermarket. I don't even think about it anymore and usually just say no and move the conversation onward. As fantastic as the witty responses suggested here have been, I honestly don't enjoy talking to relative strangers about my underwear, so I usually just answer and move the conversation elsewhere. When the bouncer asked me I just went into the same mindset and just assumed things would move on as before.

    I am not asking anyone to jump on a bandwagon. People have just PM'd me asking for contact information because they desired to do something about the situation. I am very grateful for the solidarity they have shown, but I am not upset, nor to I hold a grudge, against those who choose not to get involved.

    Peace,
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    jpo,

    Thank you for posting the manager's response.

    As I thought, their policy is a reaction to a previous incident.

    The individual who wore a kilt to this establishment did not show good judgement and has made things very difficult for the bar and for other kilt wearers.

    That person may be at fault but because of them the establishment has to try to figure out how to prevent further incidents.

    I certainly understand you not wishing to give your patronage to this bar, but on the other hand I certainly understand their policy.

    Hopefully there will be more kilted gentlemen willing to make small compromises who will frequent the bar and show that this other fellow was the exception and not the rule.

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    Of the ultimate combustion-My panache

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    While kilted, I'd go back and talk to the manager, then pull a crisp $20 bill out of my sporran, snap it in front of his face and say, "Take a good look at this $20 because you'll never see it again. I'm taking my business elsewhere."
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    Tell him Póg mo thóin --- say thóin with explosive force to cause a projectile ...

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    Umm... two Jims here... I think there's some confusion... I'm the one who sent the e-mail... And apologies for stating the wrong date -- should have been the 12th and I wrote the 13th... Remember, I'm across the International Date Line so for me, today is tomorrow for you and when today is today for you it will be yesterday for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpo View Post
    ...

    Anyway, while having my ID checked by the bouncer he asks if I am wearing anything beneath the kilt. Having gone un-bifurcated for nearly two years now, I answered honestly and without hesitation. Upon hearing that I was going regimental the bouncer informs me that I am violating the dress code and he won't let me in.

    ...
    I avoid "dress code" drinking establishments, but be that as it may, this would have been my exchange with said "bouncer:"

    Bouncer: "You wearing anything under that kilt?"

    Me: "How warm are your hands?"

    (Thanks to The Wizard of BC for that one!)

    BTW, welcome from the San Francisco Bay Area!

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