Why all the negative comments on Flat Caps?

[Phil]

To wear a kilt is not to dress up in some sort of historical costume. It is an evolving form of dress like any other, originally from Scotland, nothing more nor less. For anyone who attempts to pontificate that this or that "may not be worn" when kilted is simply trying to project their own tastes and prejudices onto others. Everyone is completely free to dress as they choose, provided they do not do so in a way that causes distress or offence to others. Forms of dress are not rigid and set in stone and to suggest they are betrays a certain supercilious attitude towards others who choose to go their own way. I know the "if it was good enough for my father/grandfather/great grandfather then it's good enough for me" attitude can prevail amongst those who are uncomfortable thinking for themselves but they should try thinking "outside the box" and realise that not everyone shares their views.

[DWFII]

DW,

I deleted my original comment to Zardoz, as after thinking the matter over, I didn't want this thread to spiral into another debate over the issue of flat caps and traditions. For record, given Zardoz's reply to my post (before I deleted my original), I do not think he intended any malice with the term in question.

Regards,

Todd

Todd,

I didn't think so either. I was just responding to the issues and the general tone (not specific people)--if it is stipulated that there is a preponderance of "negative comments" about flatcaps, how can any of the ensuing commentary not also be negative?

I'm a traditionalist when it comes to wearing kilts. In my personal opinion, (note emphasis) I think to deviate much from the conventions of Traditional Highland Dress borders on parody. But I like flat caps. I don't own one but...especially in light of all this discussion...it is on my list to buy and wear with the rest of my Traditional kit. I think I'll get a big 14" newsboy in a nice grey and green tweed.

[cajuncelt]

Ok, since this thread was started by my friend Ayin I'll chime in...
I too do not know of the flat cap controversy. First, as a piper, I can assure many pipers even from Scotland/Ireland shed their glengarrys after competing and put on their flat caps with their kilt. Don't argue, I have pictures. My personal opinion is that I dislike glengarrys (piss cutters) and always have. We have to admit as pipers we wear some pretty silly looking headwear sometimes. I like the look of flat caps better than some of the balmorals and bonnets I've seen.
Secondly, how can anyone state an arguement about flat caps when alot on this forum are wearing their utility kilts with tennis shoes, baseball cap? Or, some have the Dropkick Murphy look. I've seen Ayin and the Sonoran Scotsmen and they look great.

[pdcorlis]

5 pages later Phil added...

"See, we told you there was no heated debate about flat caps..."

[Phil]

5 pages later Phil added...

"See, we told you there was no heated debate about flat caps..."

But there is. The fact that this topic was even started tells us that. I have to declare an interest here. I wear a flat cap. With my kilt. And have done so in the presence of other consenting Scots people. There. I suppose you never thought you would hear a Scotsman say that. Did you? Well the cat's out of the bag now, well and truly. A flat-cap-wearing Scotsman has come out of the closet. And am I ashamed. Not a bit. Now you can all join me wearing your flat caps with pride!

[Jdot84]

Ok, I've been noticing more and more people keep saying stuff like "Yeah, and he was wearing a flat cap with his kilt. HAHAHA" and I'll admit I'm pretty lost on this. I wear my flat cap all the time, both with my kilt and non-kilted. I also wear a cowboy hat and my kilt from time to time. I've seen people wear top hats, turbans, baseball caps, and bandanas, but for some reason there seems to be people laughing when a flat cap is worn with a kilt.

I just need to know whether or not I'm the blunt end of a joke that I'm unaware of. I still intend to wear whatever hat I want, no matter what anyone says, but I'd like someone to please fill me in if possible.

I'm not that offended by all the comments, I more just want to know why people keeping pointing it out, in what seems like a negative way.

Here's a picture of me in my kilt and flat cap, just so you can see

A flat cap and white hose too!!
What are we to do!?
Someone, quick, call the KILT POLICE!!!

Looks good to me.

[Panache]

A flat cap and white hose too!!
What are we to do!?
Someone, quick, call the KILT POLICE!!!

Well At least Ayin has finally solved his sporran tassel problem*

Cheers

Jamie



* FYI: The Sonoran Scotsmen gatherings are pretty wild and they tend to wind up missing tassels come morning!

[Ayin McFye]

Well At least Ayin has finally solved his sporran tassel problem*

Cheers

Jamie



* FYI: The Sonoran Scotsmen gatherings are pretty wild and they tend to wind up missing tassels come morning!

LOL. Yeah, my solution was to just buy sporrans with no tassels, because yeah like you said, we tend to get a bit rowdy, and lose tassels everywhere.

[cessna152towser]

Panache wrote:-

A lot of us on this side of the pond think that flat caps go very well with kilts. However in Scotland they simply aren't worn with kilts.

Jdot84 wrote:-

A flat cap and white hose too!!
What are we to do!?
Someone, quick, call the KILT POLICE!!!

My friend illustrated here lives in Scotland and every time I see him he ALWAYS wears a flat cap with a kilt............and white hose too!
In my opinion, looking very smart.

[Panache]

OK OK OK I officially stand corrected!

There are indeed fellows in Scotland who wear flatcaps with their kilts.

However there are those in Scotland who see that this is not traditionally done.

So ultimately one should wear or not wear a flatcap with a kilt based on their own choice.

Cheers

Jamie