Camouflage Kilts...

[Casey]

I must admit that I do not like camo for day to day wear. Now having said that, I must also admit that I am finding that I am really a traditionalist and feel more comfortable in a tartan. In fact, I have a beautiful solid black kilt made by Robert and I very seldom wear it because it just doesn't feel right.

Someone said it earlier in this thread, but be thankful for the diversity of this forum.

[bubba]

In truth, I believe "camo" predates any organized and regimented military. I suspect it started with hunters rather than warriors. Historically speaking, soldiers tended to more gaudy display and fought in larger tight formations while hunters often ambushed their prey. Even the celtic warriors of old painted themselves to be seen in battle.

[macwilkin]

In truth, I believe "camo" predates any organized and regimented military. I suspect it started with hunters rather than warriors. Historically speaking, soldiers tended to more gaudy display and fought in larger tight formations while hunters often ambushed their prey. Even the celtic warriors of old painted themselves to be seen in battle.

Thank you, Bubba. The whole idea of a military uniform blending in to the terrain of the battlefield is a relatively new one, save for some exceptions, such as rifle and light infantry units in the British and American armies wearing green uniforms. As late as the American Civil War, uniforms were supposed to present a "large" image to their opponents as a form of psychological warfare (look at the bright colours and tall shakos of the Napoleonic era) -- but it wasn't really until the end of the 19th century that we see armies changing to khaki and other "earth tones".

Cheers,

Todd

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

I must admit that I do not like camo for day to day wear. Now having said that, I must also admit that I am finding that I am really a traditionalist and feel more comfortable in a tartan. In fact, I have a beautiful solid black kilt made by Robert and I very seldom wear it because it just doesn't feel right.

Someone said it earlier in this thread, but be thankful for the diversity of this forum.

Hey Casey, I am not so traditional, so if you want to get rid of that solid black kilt from Robert (and its my size), send me a PM.

[Richland]

[QUOTE=cajunscot]A quote from Matt Newsome answers this question:
I would be remiss, however, if I did not mention the London Scottish Regiment, which, along with the Toronto Scottish Regiment, wears kilts of Hodden Grey colour. Lord Elcho (later Earl Weymess), who raised the regiment in 1859, chose the Hodden Grey to avoid "inter-clan rivalries" and because Hodden Grey was a colour worn by the ghillie, or stalker in Scotland. I believe there is a photo on the back cover of Bob Martin's "All about your kilt" that shows the Balmoral ghillies dressed in similar fashion.
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The ensemble our snipers and recon folks wear is called a guillie suit. Named after the men named above. It consists of long strips of burlap and other material which blend in with the surroundings and eliminate the human outline. It is amazingly effective. I have seen well trained troops almost trip over a well disguised guilly suit clad sniper.

[Pleater]

Nitpicking here - there is camoflage and there is DPM - Disruptive Pattern Material.

My kilt is not camoflage - it is DPM made into a kilt.

[Richland]

DPM is the British standard Disrupted Pattern. The colors are similar to the US woodland, both designed in the 70s for the big fight in Europe. but the pattern is different than the US.

[michael steinrok]

I'm against them. I had one once ,but it got lost in the woods,and I couldn't see it. The pesky thing just blended into the woods

[Pleater]

DPM is the British standard Disrupted Pattern. The colors are similar to the US woodland, both designed in the 70s for the big fight in Europe. but the pattern is different than the US.

I'm not up on US militry uniform, but the British Army DPM started off as the hand painted Denison Smock in the early 1940's - modified in 1944.

The first manufactured fabric, DPM pattern 1960 was used from 1969, and the same outline pattern but in various colours has continued through several incarnations. It was always four colour, in different shades and colours for different places, but then in the Gulf War it was noticed that there were Iraqui uniforms of the same pattern and colours so it was replaced by a two colour version.

The disruptive pattern material I have used for my kilt is a non military design in three colours which should be about right for the local woodland.

[mudd]

I'm against them. I had one once ,but it got lost in the woods,and I couldn't see it. The pesky thing just blended into the woods

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