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I agree. A nice thing about San Francisco is that there are times in every season where tweeds feel perfect; but I pity people in places like Florida or Hawaii.
"It's all the same to me, war or peace,
I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by auld argonian
Which, for me, once again brings up the question of why kilt jackets and vest in fabrics more suited to warmer climates aren't more generally available. Appreciate the traditional but the companies have the patterns and could certainly try some runs of "summer" jackets...
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AA
I watched an ivory colored linen kilt jacket and waistcoat on ebay for about 6 months waiting for the guy to drop the price but he never did, then he stopped listing it.
thetartanstore dot co dot uk carries some nice fashion kilt jackets (and matching kilts) in a more modern style in a variety of materials including cotton/polyester:
http://www.thetartanstore.co.uk/high...ckets.html?p=3
For that matter their tweed and other wools are not that bad either. Only place I have seen them retail except in one shop in Glasgow I happened to walk into last summer. Cannot for the life of me remember their name though.
jeff
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by ForresterModern
Great eye Jock for the well turned out gentleman.
I think he looks a sight better than all the guys wearing strangely colored neckties with their morning dress. Can anyone clue me to this development?
I like this look far better than some of the "fascinators"
Let's not go there---please!
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by fluter
I think he looks a sight better than all the guys wearing strangely colored neckties with their morning dress. Can anyone clue me to this development?
I watched Four Weddings and a Funeral the other day for the first time (only a decade and a half late!) and I was struck that all the main characters were wearing striped dress shirts (American definition) and patterned neckties with their morning suits.
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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The Importance of (not) Being Earnest
In addition to "city" shirts, and brightly coloured ties, one also occasionally catches a glimpse of red socks being worn with morning dress. This mild eccentricity is due, I believe, to the fact that the English do not have a national "costume", and do try very hard-- to a point-- to follow the sartorial rules so as not to appear to be out of place. Kate Fox, in her excellent book Watching the English sort of sums up this phenomenon when she describes the "eccentric sheep" rule and the "affected indifference" rule regarding how men (in particular) dress in England. Suffice it to say that striped shirts (with white collars and cuffs) and almost-electric coloured ties are perfectly acceptable, whereas brown shoes would be regarded as a horrible faux pas and, if not social death, certainly a lingering pong.
Last edited by MacMillan of Rathdown; 1st May 11 at 03:42 PM.
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re: Gauntlet cuffs and the younger set.
As part of the younger set, they only jacket I have with gauntlet cuffs/epaulets is my black barathea argyll jacket. My tweed jackets are all "modern". I do this because I wear my black jacket in a more traditional setting (Burns Suppers, Balls, Weddings, Piping gigs, etc.) and that is a more traditional style. My tweeds I wear more casually, and I want them to have a more casual style.
Also, gauntlet cuffs are from the 18th century, and it is currently 2011.
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by beloitpiper
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Also, gauntlet cuffs are from the 18th century, and it is currently 2011.
It's a real shame that the kilt predates those cuffs...
I think gauntlet cuffs look quite good on any highland jacket; though I don't think they look especially nice on all men. I've found that, especially on tweed jackets, the gauntlet cuffs are a bit much for my thin build and make me look a bit "cuff-heavy".
I fully intend to go with traditional gauntlet cuffs on any formal jacket I purchase in the future, mostly because the cuffs on such jackets don't seem quite so thick, even less so when done in silk.
Last edited by Cygnus; 1st May 11 at 10:27 PM.
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by beloitpiper
re: Gauntlet cuffs and the younger set.
Also, gauntlet cuffs are from the 18th century, and it is currently 2011.
If you follow that argument then why wear the kilt in 2011? The gauntlet cuff as seen at the Royal Wedding is very much 2011 and I confidently predict it will be worn by those that wish to, for many a decade yet.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I have shamelessly poached this fine and topical picture from another thread.
Well alright there are those who might think that the Royal Wedding was not the place to wear the kilt, and there are those who might consider a tweed argyll as not formal enough for that particular event. But my word that kilted chap is perfectly turned out in his kilt and tweed argyll and what is more he is obviously quite at ease with himself and the surroundings and does not look out of place.Well done him and he is doing himself and the kilt great credit.
A question on that front - and really a question, not an opinion posed as a question. It has been said on this forum by many that the black barathea Argyle with silver buttons is the Highland equivalent of a morning suit. All the men I see in Saxon attire are wearing morning suits. I didn't watch the wedding, so I don't know if some men showed up in business suits, which is the analog of what this man in the kilt is wearing. So my question is, regardless of how nice this man looks (and there is no question that he looks nice), is he underdressed?
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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A fair question. There were indeed lounge(business) suits being worn(as per the choice given on the invitation) there, so our kilted example is perfectly dressed for the occasion.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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