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28th August 06, 08:49 PM
#71
 Originally Posted by Raphael
You oughtta take it easy with your new found 'freedom' and stop being militant about your feeling and force your belief down people's head. you will live longer.
Militant? Am I being militant? Hey, I'm almost 51 years old and I've mellowed quite a lot in the last few decades. I must have REALLY been something to behold when I was younger!
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28th August 06, 09:21 PM
#72
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
I am saturating the entire Phoenix area with the vision of Utilikilts in order to promote fashion freedom for men.
And by all means, more power to ya!
It's just that I'm sensing you carry an intensity... an urgency, of sorts, to your quest. Rome still refuses to be built in a day.
... this is as much freedom as I ever want them to have. Shorts, pants, and kilts. That's all....
I wasn't suggesting that you consider heels and pantyhose as a fashion choice! It's just that those boards have a bit different mission statement and general approach to the freedom issues than does Xmarks, thats all.
Kilt-on!
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28th August 06, 10:07 PM
#73
 Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
And by all means, more power to ya!
It's just that I'm sensing you carry an intensity... an urgency, of sorts, to your quest. Rome still refuses to be built in a day.
Well.....I have a saying.....I don't stop and smell the roses along the way, I run over them because they're in my way. 
I carry an intensity when it comes to LIFE and I really need to get my kilt intensity re-directed back into software development.....I'm just having some difficulty getting that accomplished.
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29th August 06, 04:37 AM
#74
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
One of two things will happen. Either the stares and questions will go away or I will get used to them. It sounds like it will probably be the latter and not the former. 
Some of the stares will go away as people get used to you, but mostly you will get confident in your kilt wearing and just not notice the stares anymore.
The best thing you or any of us can do to promote kilt wearing is to provide a good example. Wear the kilt, wear it well (don't be sloppy), and be an all around good person. Just show the people you're not a freak and they will come to understand (slowly) that you are just making a choice.
And don't be afraid of the questions. Questions are an opportunity to educate.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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29th August 06, 08:16 AM
#75
 Originally Posted by Raphael
I don't know what planet you live on, but I have to yet to loose any friend, alienated any family or lost a job because my kilts.
I have not lost a job because I have not worn my kilt to work. However, several men here wore a kilt to work and were told to stop....or else. So they had to wear pants to work.
I thought the "or else" was being fired but maybe I misunderstood? Maybe men do have the freedom to wear anything they want to work just as women have for the last 50 years and I misunderstood something here?
Is that what you are saying? :confused:
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29th August 06, 12:26 PM
#76
 Originally Posted by NewKilt
Phil,
As far as wearing kilts to work, have you asked your immediate supervisor about it? There are members that have asked permission to wear a kilt at work and have gotten the ok to do so.
Darrell
I asked today. I mentioned that the dress code is not gender specific and says that all employees can wear skirts and pants but not shorts.
Well....he was rather amazed that I would ask and said if I come to work in a kilt they will specifically re-write the dress code just for me so it states that men wear pants and women can wear skirts and that is how the world is supposed to be.
So....that was that. Now I'm sorry I asked, I wish I hadn't even mentioned it.
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29th August 06, 12:31 PM
#77
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
Well....he was rather amazed that I would ask and said if I come to work in a kilt they will specifically re-write the dress code just for me so it states that men wear pants and women can wear skirts and that is how the world is supposed to be.
So....that was that. Now I'm sorry I asked, I wish I hadn't even mentioned it. 
You'll excuse me, but what the hell is wrong with companies in Phoenix? I mean, even ignoring the ridiculousness of that dress code forcing women to wear skirts and men to wear pants, the fact remains the kilt is a male garment.
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29th August 06, 12:54 PM
#78
 Originally Posted by Aramp
You'll excuse me, but what the hell is wrong with companies in Phoenix? I mean, even ignoring the ridiculousness of that dress code forcing women to wear skirts and men to wear pants, the fact remains the kilt is a male garment.
Well....I meant to say that men must wear pants and women can wear whatever they want except for shorts.
Shorts are not allowed here, and since men can ONLY wear pants and shorts in life we must wear pants.
This is another reason why I would like to wear my Utilikilt in front of everyone and everywhere for the rest of my days - so some day in the future people will know that a kilt can be worn as an alternative to pants.
Last edited by pbpersson; 29th August 06 at 12:57 PM.
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29th August 06, 01:05 PM
#79
The fact that the boss told you they would re-write the dress code if you wore a kilt sounds pretty close-minded to me, but I do not know the work environment there.
I do wish you good luck in your quest to wear the kilt at work!
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29th August 06, 02:48 PM
#80
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
...men wear pants and women can wear skirts and that is how the world is supposed to be.
Do you by any chance work in the "time travel" industry? It seems your management team has somehow been teleported back to the 1950's!
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