clan associations

**triolamj** · 23rd December 09, 07:57 PM

I'm Italian (Sicilian), Irish, and Danish in that order. Even though I represent for the Irish clan of McMahon of Thomond (mom's paternal grandmother) here in southeast Texas, and we have a "chief", I voted "NO". I usually sponsor and run an all-Irish table at the local highland games to provide hospitality to the Scots-Irish and any stray Irish that pass by. Maybe once DNA testing drops to a really affordable level and enough people get tested, we'll start forming more and more family name associations (we don't have septs, but we do have family groupings like O'Brien, McMahon, McKennedy based on descent). We even have a Standing Council of Irish Chieftains which included 2 roguish fraudsters. First pipes, then kilts, then caubeens, and now evil lairds: what other Scottish tradition are we going to pick up?

**Galician** · 24th December 09, 08:26 AM

Wow, do the results so far mean that about 80% of the people on this board have Scottish ancestry?

**English Bloke** · 24th December 09, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

I am the President of the Clan Cumming Society of the United States.

Blimey Todd. When we were swapping that Cumming's and Bruce's banter a while back I didn't realise I was dicing with the big cheese. My hat is off to you Sir.

**Livingston** · 24th December 09, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by English Bloke

Blimey Todd. When we were swapping that Cumming's and Bruce's banter a while back I didn't realise I was dicing with the big cheese. My hat is off to you Sir.

John, there are several members of XMarks that are "big cheese" with their clans. KMaclea is the Commisioner and I'm on the executive committee for Clan MacLea (Livingstone), Todd of course, Turpin, and there are several more. I just don't remember who all they are right now.

**macwilkin** · 24th December 09, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by English Bloke

Blimey Todd. When we were swapping that Cumming's and Bruce's banter a while back I didn't realise I was dicing with the big cheese. My hat is off to you Sir.

Oh no...that would be our chief, Sir Alistair Cumming. ;-)

T.

**English Bloke** · 24th December 09, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Livingston

John, there are several members of XMarks that are "big cheese" with their clans. KMaclea is the Commisioner and I'm on the executive committee for Clan MacLea (Livingstone), Todd of course, Turpin, and there are several more. I just don't remember who all they are right now.

Yes and I have great respect for them too but I didn't exchange Bruce and Cumming debate with them. There is a very long standing, nay ancient feud exists between the Cummings and the Bruces.

I believe Todd and I have allowed the intervening 700 years of water to pass beneath our mutual Bridge since Robert the Bruce murdered John "the Red" Comyn in a church in Dumfries, and that although I descend down the Bruce line and he the Comyn, I think we have agreed that I am not personally responsible for that brutal and treacherous attack.

EDIT: Hello Todd. Happy Christmas mate!!

**muirkirkca** · 24th December 09, 09:52 AM

Belong to the Scottish Studies society, part of U of Guelph.

**macwilkin** · 24th December 09, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by English Bloke

Yes and I have great respect for them too but I didn't exchange Bruce and Cumming debate with them. There is a very long standing, nay ancient feud exists between the Cummings and the Bruces.

I believe Todd and I have allowed the intervening 700 years of water to pass beneath our mutual Bridge since Robert the Bruce murdered John "the Red" Comyn in a church in Dumfries, and that although I descend down the Bruce line and he the Comyn, I think we have agreed that I am not personally responsible for that brutal and treacherous attack.

EDIT: Hello Todd. Happy Christmas mate!!

Aye, quite so. It's your turn to buy the next pint or dram, mate!

int:

I'll just be careful not to go to church with you!

T.

**Jock Scot** · 24th December 09, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by English Bloke

Yes and I have great respect for them too but I didn't exchange Bruce and Cumming debate with them. There is a very long standing, nay ancient feud exists between the Cummings and the Bruces.

I believe Todd and I have allowed the intervening 700 years of water to pass beneath our mutual Bridge since Robert the Bruce murdered John "the Red" Comyn in a church in Dumfries, and that although I descend down the Bruce line and he the Comyn, I think we have agreed that I am not personally responsible for that brutal and treacherous attack.

EDIT: Hello Todd. Happy Christmas mate!!

A fine example, for the unwary, of why the mixing of different clan tartans can unwittingly cause upset. Also, a fine example of gentlemen coming to terms, peaceably, with a clan feud.

**O'Callaghan** · 24th December 09, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Galician

Wow, do the results so far mean that about 80% of the people on this board have Scottish ancestry?

Probably not. Firstly, the 80% would be only of those who responded. Secondly, not all clans are Scottish, although there are ten times as many recognised Scottish clans as Irish ones (approximately 200 versus about 20).

However, I think another poll came out with 80% having celtic ancestry. Again, I don't suppose every member responded to that one. I don't suppose it's far wrong, though.