Post Your Granted, Assumed or Desired Arms

[FatherWilliam57]

Cygnus is dead-on with his post. In simpler terms: Simply having the same last name as someone else does not necessarily entitle that person to adopt and use the other person's arms. In most cases it must be proven that there is a direct line of descent from the original armiger to the potential armiger before it would be appropriate for a descendant bearing the same surname to use those same arms as his or her own. Without showing any evidence of descent from the original armiger, or obtaining their explicit permission, it would be dishonest, disrespectful, and misleading for someone to use the original person’s arms as their own. Instead, the person who wants arms of his or her own should design new arms to represent himself and his descendants. There are many organizations that Americans can use to assist them in this process.

[Bugbear]

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[piperdbh]

I found the blaozn listed in Sir Bernard Burke's Encyclopaedia of Heraldry, or General Armoury of England, Scotland and Ireland . Since my name is English in origin, there would be no clan involved, and it wouldn't fall under Lyon's jurisdiction, would it? I'm not trying to steal someone else's arms; just clearing up some misconceptions about who can use them. Thanks for all the answers so far.



WBHenry,
You wouldn't happen to be ELCA, would you? I graduated from Lenoir-Rhyne College and sang in the A Cappella Choir when we toured in your area several years ago.

[Cygnus]

I found the blaozn listed in Sir Bernard Burke's Encyclopaedia of Heraldry, or General Armoury of England, Scotland and Ireland . Since my name is English in origin, there would be no clan involved, and it wouldn't fall under Lyon's jurisdiction, would it? I'm not trying to steal someone else's arms; just clearing up some misconceptions about who can use them. Thanks for all the answers so far.

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It wouldn't fall under Lyon's jurisdiction, but England also has an heraldic authority in the College of Arms and the Garter King of Arms. I'm not very familiar with the processes involved with English grants of arms, though I'm sure some of our more knowledgeable members can advise you.

[Cygnus]

I'm glad to see the renewed activity in this thread and, in the time it has lain dormant, I've reviewed the arms that I had posted originally and made some significant modifications.



These arms a bit busier, but I am far happier with them than any of the others that I posted before.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I'm glad to see the renewed activity in this thread and, in the time it has lain dormant, I've reviewed the arms that I had posted originally and made some significant modifications.



These arms a bit busier, but I am far happier with them than any of the others that I posted before.

What you might want to do is reduce the shield to the size of a postage stamp and see how it reads...

I used to advise folks that heraldry was like jewelry. It wasn't about how much you put on, but rather how much you could leave off and still achieve the desired effect.

If you can live without the lion, something you might want to consider is that the lymphad would better fill the space under the chevron; that being the case a third fleur-de-lys could be added to the chevron.

Just a thought....

[Cygnus]

What you might want to do is reduce the shield to the size of a postage stamp and see how it reads...

I used to advise folks that heraldry was like jewelry. It wasn't about how much you put on, but rather how much you could leave off and still achieve the desired effect.

If you can live without the lion, something you might want to consider is that the lymphad would better fill the space under the chevron; that being the case a third fleur-de-lys could be added to the chevron.

Just a thought....

I am quite fond of the lion, but not wedded to the idea by any means; and I see that the galley is a bit small...

I like this one as well, though MoR's feedback has got me thinking of a couple other things to try.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I am quite fond of the lion, but not wedded to the idea by any means; and I see that the galley is a bit small...

I like this one as well, though MoR's feedback has got me thinking of a couple other things to try.

Try the galley in gold....

and maybe the fluer-de-lys in red...

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Something that just occurred to me; is the bordure around your arms a distinction indicative of cadency?

In other words, does this represent you as being the eldest son of the second son (your father), or (forgetting about the label for a moment) is this the bordure you would apply as the second son of your father? I'm thinking it must be the former, if the latter the bordure would not be applied during infancy (under the heraldic age of 21), only the label. When reaching maturity (21) the label would be discarded and the appropriate cadency mark or bordure would be applied.

[WVHighlander]

Wow this thread has really caught fire over the last few days. Its fantastic to see these arms. I am still working through getting my own Coat of Arms.