Kilts and costumes

[ChromeScholar]

Costume:-This covers anything that is worn by actors/re-enactment fans/Halloween participents etc.etc.Their clothing is worn for the effect that they are trying to achieve and has absolutely nothing to do with Highland attire.

I can agree with this, with one caveat. If the effect the person is trying to achieve is Highland attire, then (done correctly) it could be both Highland attire and a costume.

[Monkey@Arms]

Perhaps we should meet in "Riverkilt's field" that he so wisely talked about. If we do, mine's a large Talisker!

I like that image of "Riverkilt's field." Even if Ron got the idea from an ancient sage, its an excellent metaphor for a place to put aside that which divides us. (And a :soda: for Ron and those who don't imbibe.)

Best regards,

Jake

[Jock Scot]

Looks as though we are agreeing to disagree then.Costume is one thing. Highland attire is completely different.Sorry.

[ChromeScholar]

Hypothetical situation...

Let's say we have a young man from the Kingussie area. For whatever reason, he has never put on a kilt in his life (I imagine there are quite a few Scots who have never worn Highland attire, even in the Scottish highlands). He is going to the US on holiday. He knows that, while he is there, he is going to attend a costume party. In preparation, he decides to obtain a kilt, in his clan tartan, with all the proper accessories and take it along. He wears this kilt to the party.

Is he wearing Highland attire, or is he wearing a costume?

[Jock Scot]

Hypothetical situation...

Let's say we have a young man from the Kingussie area. For whatever reason, he has never put on a kilt in his life (I imagine there are quite a few Scots who have never worn Highland attire, even in the Scottish highlands). He is going to the US on holiday. He knows that, while he is there, he is going to attend a costume party. In preparation, he decides to obtain a kilt, in his clan tartan, with all the proper accessories and take it along. He wears this kilt to the party.

Is he wearing Highland attire, or is he wearing a costume?

Highland attire of course.Why?I hear you ask.As long as his attire does not have "added accoutrements" he is wearing Highland attire.If he were to add an "extra something" then he would be wearing costume.

[Jock Scot]

I seem to remember that in the book "So you are going to wear the Kilt"the author describes an event where "the then",not the present one,Prince of Wales wore Highland attire to a costume ball.It was not well recieved at all!My definition has moved a wee tad from that stance!

[ChromeScholar]

Highland attire of course.Why?

Because, IMO, he would be wearing a costume.

1. He's wearing clothing he wouldn't normally wear.

2. He's wearing it to a costume event.

3. He's wearing it for a specific effect.

That makes it a costume to me.

[Jock Scot]

Right, one last try.He would be wearing highland attire,because he is a Highlander wearing what a Highlander would wear to a party and provided it was worn properly with no "extras" it is not a costume.Perhaps "they" were right when the uncomplementry remarks were made about the Prince of Wales wearing Highland Attire to a costume ball ,after all!!

[Colin]

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[ChromeScholar]

To me, costume/clothing is a matter of intent, not a matter of nationality.

Time to go get a whisky, I guess...