Mad as hell!

**pipesndrumsnun** · 27th November 07, 12:33 PM

A little educating of the public never hurts...especially if you do it in a polite and respectful manner!

**auld argonian** · 27th November 07, 05:58 PM

I'm laughing about the whole men/women pants thing...I was just growing up when that line got crossed and blurred forever. Just think of it...I was actually alive when the majority of women and girls wore skirts! Seems like a whole lot of people, including your friend, have forgotten that.

Best

AA

**kiltedinUSMC** · 27th November 07, 08:11 PM

Wow I admire your patince with her. Like My mom always tells me you can't yell at a brick wall it wont do nothing but sit there.

**motorman4life** · 28th November 07, 12:53 PM

It seems old friends are the hardest to get through to. I have had similar difficulties. People I have known for a few years seem to be okay, but long time friends tend to "freak out" a bit or make an issue of it.

I had struggled with this and after taking to some friends 1 on 1 about it, I came to the conclusion that people get an idea of what kind of person you are when they decide to befriend you. It seems that if you do anything that they see as a contradiction to the person they see (saw) you as, they get very offended. It is almost like they take it as a personal insult. I don't know why this is, but it seems to be the case in many of these situations were these people just can't draw a parallel between their old perception of their friend and they new realization that you wear a kilt (and all of the BS that THEY have chosen to assign to that).

It could be their own pre-conceived notions, biases, homophobia or just a general misunderstanding of what the kilt means to you. My final realization was that it didn't matter to them what the kilt meant to me. They were so self-absorbed that they only cared what it meant to them, no matter how misinformed they are, some of them just couldn't warap their minds around the idea of freedom and self-expression.

Sad really.

**Daaaaang** · 28th November 07, 01:25 PM

Have you talked to her yet?

**DireStraitsFan** · 30th November 07, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Daaaaang

Have you talked to her yet?

Haven't seen her in a while. Exchanged a few emails, but not anything outside of that.

**DireStraitsFan** · 25th February 08, 09:35 AM

I just thought I would update this thread, since you were all so helpful with your comments and suggestions. Kelley and I had a night out for Carnival with these friends a few weeks ago, and the discussion turned to kilts and the wedding. My friend asked me if we were going to wear kilts (her husband Jim is in the wedding), and I said I thought we probably would. She expressed that she was excited to see us all dressed up in kilts and that she looked forward to it. Somehow she overcame her prejudice to it. When I asked her how she came about this change of heart, she really didn't have an answer. She just said she thought we were going to look really good in them, and she looks forward to it.

Perhaps it just took a little while for her to come around to the idea.

Thanks again.

**Chase** · 25th February 08, 09:40 AM

I still think there's more to it than just that (hence my therory on Jim), but hey, If you're happy then we're happy...Might as well leave things as they are.

**DireStraitsFan** · 25th February 08, 10:03 AM

I'll have to go back and re-read, Chase. I forgot what your theory was.

**ForresterModern** · 25th February 08, 10:48 AM

Wear it when you want to wear it. If it seems to be coming between you and your friendship with Sonya let her know it and why. Straight up, just like you would if one of your guy friends carried on beyond just a little bit of ribbing. Friends should really be friends, and she should be able to get beyond this and move on.