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25th February 08, 03:29 PM
#81
Originally Posted by berserkbishop
I dont dress like my favorite punk star because I dont want to BE my favorite punk band. I like their music but thats no reason to dress like them, I dont get paid to. I get paid to put on a shirt, tie, and slacks and do MY job. When I leave that job, I still represent my company. If I get caught looking like a slob or acting like an idiot by my boss outside work it would not bode well for my job.
I totally respect your view and opinion. You are living your life and making your own choices. Who am I to judge or tell some one what should be done? Just because you follow the society's norm, that doesn't mean that I respect you less. You should be in control of your life and not let anyone tells you how you should live your life. As long as you are happy and doing what you want, you are in control.
When I am meeting with my client, I am all business. I would put on my finest suit, Shirt pressed with starch and a silk tie. I am there to do a job and I respect my firm. But when I am away from my work, I am a different person and my boss knows that. She has no problem about how I look or act outside of the firm. If I make her money, she is happy.
Although there are times that she wishes me to stop dressing up like a funeral director. Then I showed up wearing my dark suit with a red shirt and a black tie. She was happy with it. She thought that it was a pretty stylish combo. Of course, Marilyn Manson often wears an assemble similar to that.
Even when I wear my kilt to my office, I would have my shirt tucked in with a tie around my neck. My hose will stay up and my shoes will be polished. As far as I know, I can still present a professional image with my kilt while meeting with people.
The business of telling others to stop dressing a certain way is nonsense. I view this as a form of censorship. If we really live in the land of the free and the braves, why cant one evolve the traditional thinking to something new?
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25th February 08, 03:32 PM
#82
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Raphael,
You realize that it's the stout that makes that outfit work. It's all about the beer after all!
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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25th February 08, 03:44 PM
#83
Originally Posted by Panache
Raphael,
You realize that it's the stout that makes that outfit work. It's all about the beer after all!
Cheers
Jamie[/QUOTE]
Just in case you wonder, I was drinking a pint of Murphy's Irish Stout. Doolin's sells them a dollar cheaper than Guinness and they are just as tasty.
Cheers.
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25th February 08, 04:05 PM
#84
I am my own generation and my generation did not grow up like yours. Why should we dress up like yours?
Life is about having fun and not about following the rules that set out by our forefathers.
Raph,
No offence, mate, but quite frankly, there are many times I wish no association with my generation. (and for the record, I'm over 30) I much prefer the fashion styles of my parents (early 60s) or grandparents to the present. Classic looks never go out of style whilst fad fashion sticks out like the proverbial powder-blue tux in a 70s wedding photo.
While I certainly have no problems with "having fun", I do believe that our forefathers can teach us a lot on how to behave, as well as be an inspiration. There are times for fun, and times for responsibility.
T.
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25th February 08, 04:22 PM
#85
No Problem, Todd. I like the classic style as well. But at this stage of my life, I am sticking with what I like. For all I know, I may be dressing up like a country gentleman in the near future.
I certainly have my mature side and can behave like a father, business professional, a spouse and a son. But I like to have have fun when it comes to fashion. I do dress appropriately to the events that I attend. I won't show up to weddings without a pressed shirt, a tie, a jacket and polished black shoes.
Even when I dress casually, I still like to inject a certain elegance to it as well. I don't do sneakers when I am not working out. I like nice clothes and I do spend my money on clothes to look good. Even before I got into kilt wearing, I can put together an impressive outfit without the help from any woman. I can't stand looking like a slob. It is not me. And Dressing Causally should not mean dressing up like slob. I dress to impress.
And yes, I like to get inspire from various types of fashion. that include fashion from the 50's, 60's and 70's. I still want to get a blue velvet kilt made with matching velvet jacket and a jabot shirt with collar and cuffs. Of course, that would involve a trip to Norway. (Oh behave, now.)
I think I should edit what I wrote earlier to this:
My Life is about having fun and not about following the rules that set out by our forefathers.
Last edited by Raphael; 25th February 08 at 04:49 PM.
Reason: Bored on a day off
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25th February 08, 06:01 PM
#86
Originally Posted by Highland Logan
They are very American... and based on a pair of cargo shorts, not a kilt. And when it comes to protocol and dress etiquette when wearing the kilt these don't count, because they are not kilts. If you wear a Utilikilt and don't wear a sporran, or no flashes... not to worry, the kilt snobs, kilt police, ect. well not hound you, and don't care... "It's not a kilt".
Alright, then. I see that there is no point or purpose to me being here if my UKs are not actually kilts. At least you were polite about telling me to shut up and go away.
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25th February 08, 07:11 PM
#87
Originally Posted by Highland Logan
They are very American... and based on a pair of cargo shorts, not a kilt. And when it comes to protocol and dress etiquette when wearing the kilt these don't count, because they are not kilts. If you wear a Utilikilt and don't wear a sporran, or no flashes... not to worry, the kilt snobs, kilt police, ect. well not hound you, and don't care... "It's not a kilt".
Originally Posted by TechBear
Alright, then. I see that there is no point or purpose to me being here if my UKs are not actually kilts. At least you were polite about telling me to shut up and go away.
I don't think that is what he meant. I think what he meant is that a UK doesn't represent anything Scottish and so those who are traditionalists don't care how it is worn.
The UK, as mentioned, is not a real kilt. I know this always offends some people whenever it's mentioned but it shouldn't.
From the UK website:
A NOTE ABOUT “REAL KILTS”:
It is often suggested that Utilikilts* brand utility kilts are not “real kilts.” This is 100% TRUE!
“Real Kilts” are defined as: “A knee-length skirt with deep pleats, usually of a tartan wool, worn as part of the dress for men in the Scottish Highlands.”
Utilikilts* brand utility kilts, on the other hand, are manskirts (as are Scottish traditional kilts, and, for that matter, any M.U.G (Men’s Unbifurcated Garment).
These are Utilikilts words not mine and that is why I have no problem how anyone chooses to wear a UK (within what are considered the confines of decency anyway).
Last edited by Chef; 25th February 08 at 07:17 PM.
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25th February 08, 07:17 PM
#88
Oh no!! Not another 'kilt or not kilt' thread!!!
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25th February 08, 07:39 PM
#89
From your friendly Neighborhood Moderator...
Originally Posted by Raphael
Oh no!! Not another 'kilt or not kilt' thread!!!
Indeed Raphael not another "kilt or not thread". After all that would be off topic and really pointless.
Right all?
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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25th February 08, 08:02 PM
#90
Sorry. My intention was not to start that.
The point I was making was about the "Scottishness" of a UK only and why someone like myself or Logan really doesn't care how anyone wears a UK. The quote from UK was only used to support that.
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