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2nd April 09, 07:12 PM
#1
Yes, Jock is patient about letting you know these things.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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9th September 08, 08:59 PM
#2
We've discovered that although the name is DEFINITELY from Prussia, anyone of the name of Grote can become a member of clan Sinclair! Apparently there was someone in the 17th or 18th century that really helped the clan out, and this is the thanks we all were given!
Soo, which Sinclair to wear? Or, the state kilts of the states where we were born! (Husband in Wisconsin, and I in California) And I like the Los Angeles City Tartan, but I think I would need to be a policeman or firefighter to wear it. And can military retirees wear the tartan for their branch of service?
Trying to get hubby to just wear one, black duck or light canvas utilikilt or X-kilt, he will look amazing in one!
Are there any other clans which "adopted" other families? Especially non-UK families?
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31st March 09, 10:59 PM
#3
Jusskipy,
As Gilmore has suggested, the search feature is your friend on this topic:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...chquery=jewish
I second his suggestion of the Gordon tartan, both because it has been worn by Scottish Jews, and because of the history of Lord George Gordon
Best regards,
Jake
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1st April 09, 06:11 AM
#4
An Irish district tartan is always a choice - some of them are very handsome.
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Some clans will let you join in friend status, or if you "swear" allegiance to the clan chief.
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1st April 09, 06:41 AM
#5
Here is my view:
The Heraldry Foundation was was not founded until the early 1800's and did not release any "Clan" Tartans until the late 1800's. So it really depends on your application.
In the 1700's it was very common for a Scot to where at least 2 different tartans at the same time. It was typical for the Waistcoat, Weskit, kilt and socks to all be different, if the Scot was wealthy. By modern terms, this is ugly as sin, but was the peak of fashion then.
Now, I would suggest wearing your clan, or at least do research on the clan you are wearing. Ex. I am a MacDonell of Glengarry. You will never catch me in anything Campbell, nor will I wear a Black watch Kilt. For those who know the history between the MacDonald clans and the Campbells, this is very easy to understand. In my opinion, wear what you want, but make sure you know exactly who you are wearing and representing yourself as.
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1st April 09, 07:35 AM
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 Originally Posted by Devlyn
Here is my view:
The Heraldry Foundation was was not founded until the early 1800's and did not release any "Clan" Tartans until the late 1800's. So it really depends on your application.
In the 1700's it was very common for a Scot to where at least 2 different tartans at the same time. It was typical for the Waistcoat, Weskit, kilt and socks to all be different, if the Scot was wealthy. By modern terms, this is ugly as sin, but was the peak of fashion then.
Now, I would suggest wearing your clan, or at least do research on the clan you are wearing. Ex. I am a MacDonell of Glengarry. You will never catch me in anything Campbell, nor will I wear a Black watch Kilt. For those who know the history between the MacDonald clans and the Campbells, this is very easy to understand. In my opinion, wear what you want, but make sure you know exactly who you are wearing and representing yourself as.
What is the "Heraldry Foundation"? Are you perhaps making reference to the Lyon Court, which 1). really has very little to do with tartans and 2) has been round much longer than 1800? Or perhaps the Highland Society of London (or a similar organisation) which started recording "clan tartans" around 1815?
In regards to a Macdonald wearing Government Sett, I would bet you would find a fair number of them on the rolls of the Black Watch regiment. 
Regards,
Todd
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1st April 09, 07:00 AM
#7
Yup. Off the top of my head I wear the Loud MacLeod (of Lewis) and the MacLean Hunting because I like them. The later a bit in honor of Sir Sean Connery.
Loud MacLeod goes well at Pow-Wows where the style of dress is "colorful."
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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1st April 09, 07:11 AM
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In the infancy of my kilt wearing days, I was real hung up on this subject. I am a Boyd, with Calqhoun decendants. The clan(s) neighboring/longtime enemy was the MacGregors (see Battle of Fruin). Lo and behold, 2 years later I had to wear the MacGregor tartan because of my pipe band! Lol. I dropped the clannish attitude out of preservation (and reality).
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1st April 09, 10:03 AM
#9
reading through this old post i agree with jockscot most scots tend to stick to the fathers name ,
ive traced so far over 600 people on my family tree going back 700 years if i had to wear every tartan im related to i`d need to start saving up for over 120 kilts ,but each to there own if ya wanna wear a kilt then do so regardless or clans or kin... but i do hold certain family surnames closer to my heart mainly through association with that particular member of the family rather than status
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2nd April 09, 12:06 AM
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I think that if you live in the Highlands as Jock Scott does you are more likely to wear your Family tartan as the Scottish traditions are still adhered to more so than anywhere else. I am a Scot from Glasgow & I wear Tartan from Different clans just because I like them. but I always apply to the Clan societys for permission to wear their tartan & have up to now been granted it.
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