Well in that case I shall leave it here. I would like to point out that while I am careful to delineate the difference from a knife to a "weapon" Australian law is not. anything from a broadsword to a hairbrush is referred to as a "weapon" so in order to correctly cite the references - the use thereof is Neccesary. But as I appear to have inadvertently violated some forums rules. I'll close this thread (provided I'm able to do so.)