Ok, read the whole thread after I've been mulling on it since day one.

1. There are certain times a young man should turn his cell phone OFF so that he can interact as a human with the person or people in whose company he delights. Young men need to learn to recognize those times. On a date, he should turn off his phone as soon as he and the date are in company since she no longer might need directions. Just turn it off and be with her.

2. I have only two sons, but I see behaving as an adult member of the household rather than an entitled teet-sucker as an important developmental milestone. 2 hour long distance phone calls, open windows in mid winter, dirty dishes in the sink next to the dishwasher and dirty laundry strewn hither and yon are all signs that the boy has not yet put away childish things...

3. Plus eleventy on personal hygiene. I am perfectly OK with young smelling like soap and sweat, cologne and sweat is nauseating.