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22nd July 11, 03:54 PM
#1
Interesting. I have read of places here in the States that don't want the pipes played inside for a variety of reasons (church policy, minister's preference, etc.), but that's the first I've seen of a Scottish church banning the pipes all together (even outside).
I'm actually piping (with a mini-band, no less - 4 pipers, snare & bass) at a wedding here in town tomorrow at a Roman Catholic church.
John
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22nd July 11, 04:07 PM
#2
Wow! Just wow!
I've attended a number of weddings in Edinburgh and most have had a piper pipe the guests in and the bride when she arrives. Definitely needs taking to the press, cannae believe this in Auld Reekie of all places.
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22nd July 11, 04:26 PM
#3
tpa - offense may not have been meant but the joke (if it was) is factually incorrect.
The Church of England has no congregations in Scotland - the Anglican representative there is the Scottish Episcopal Church.
I am not sure that the church concerned can be forced to change their policy though publicity may embarrass them possibly. Churches may have various prohibitions about what is allowed at weddings - a popular one is banning the throwing of confetti.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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22nd July 11, 05:00 PM
#4
Sometimes...
it is better to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission. I had a piper lead my wife and I out at the recessional for our wedding,,,,he played Loud and Proud. Just to avoid any complications I never said a word to anyone in advance.
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22nd July 11, 05:16 PM
#5
Kilt police in Scotland next!!!!!!!!
Pathetic!
Chris.
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22nd July 11, 05:34 PM
#6
Last year, my father-in-law passed away in Birmingham, Al. They were long time, faithful members of the Episcopal Church. When we were planning the funeral service the minister said the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church for the funeral service. He stated that their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war. They did consent to allow the piper to stand on the sidewalk in front of the church with the doors open so the attendees could hear the pipes.
Doug
Clan Ogilvie; AF&AM/Scottish Rite/York Rite/Shriner; Charleston Scottish Society; Brotherhood of the Isle of Skye; Matt Newsome Kilt Owners Group
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22nd July 11, 10:12 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by 2a5t2f7
... the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church ... their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war....
Condolences for you Father in Law.
That sounds like an excuse for a preference to me. Either that or he is misinformed. I've seen bagpipes played in English Churches (CofE).
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23rd July 11, 05:17 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by 2a5t2f7
Last year, my father-in-law passed away in Birmingham, Al. They were long time, faithful members of the Episcopal Church. When we were planning the funeral service the minister said the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church for the funeral service. He stated that their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war. They did consent to allow the piper to stand on the sidewalk in front of the church with the doors open so the attendees could hear the pipes.
I can't wait to share this story with several priests and a number of our local Scottish society members who are Episcopalian -- sounds like that rector flunked his church history course in Seminary -- the Episcopal Church USA's first Bishop, the Rt. Rev. Samuel Seabury, was consecrated in Aberdeen in 1784 by three Scottish Bishops! The SEC, not the C. of E., was responsible for the creation of the Communion, since it was not the established/state church of Scotland -- Seabury could not be consecrated in England being an American.
Todd (a 20 year "pisskie" who organizes the local Kirkin' at his Anglo-Catholic parish)
Last edited by macwilkin; 23rd July 11 at 05:30 AM.
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24th July 11, 05:03 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by 2a5t2f7
Last year, my father-in-law passed away in Birmingham, Al. They were long time, faithful members of the Episcopal Church. When we were planning the funeral service the minister said the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church for the funeral service. He stated that their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war. They did consent to allow the piper to stand on the sidewalk in front of the church with the doors open so the attendees could hear the pipes.
Considering that the first Episcopalian bishop in the Colonies was created by Scottish rather than the Anglican bishops, this is truly odd. The Anglican Communion includes the Church of England I think, but is not equivalent to it. Of course, the English didn't like that our first Episcopalian bishop was of Scottish creation, so created two of their own.
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25th July 11, 02:13 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by McClef
tpa - offense may not have been meant but the joke (if it was) is factually incorrect.
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Fortunately jokes are not required to be factually correct or even factual.
If you are going to do it, do it in a kilt!
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