Bagipes Banned from Edinburgh Wedding !

[seanachie]

it is better to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission. I had a piper lead my wife and I out at the recessional for our wedding,,,,he played Loud and Proud. Just to avoid any complications I never said a word to anyone in advance.

[chrisupyonder]

Kilt police in Scotland next!!!!!!!!

Pathetic!

Chris.

[2a5t2f7]

Last year, my father-in-law passed away in Birmingham, Al. They were long time, faithful members of the Episcopal Church. When we were planning the funeral service the minister said the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church for the funeral service. He stated that their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war. They did consent to allow the piper to stand on the sidewalk in front of the church with the doors open so the attendees could hear the pipes.

[English Bloke]

... the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church ... their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war....

Condolences for you Father in Law.

That sounds like an excuse for a preference to me. Either that or he is misinformed. I've seen bagpipes played in English Churches (CofE).

[McClef]

I can find nothing in rubrics or policy of the Scottish Episcopal Church that bans bagpipes as a matter of policy.

Nor have I found anything for the Church of England.

Nor for the American Episcopal Church.

As English Bloke says "it's nobbut an excuse."

[2a5t2f7]

Sounded like a personal preference "reason" to me as well..... However, I was not in a position to argue with the inlaw's pastor at such a difficult time. In reality, the "outside" playing had an even more ethereal effect than they would have had in the cathedral.......

My experience in the local Episcopal Diocese where I live has also not been the same. One local church even has a Kirkin O'the Tartan service complete with Highland Cathedral played by The Citadel Pipe Band.

[English Bloke]

Sounded like a personal preference "reason" to me as well..... However, I was not in a position to argue with the inlaw's pastor at such a difficult time. In reality, the "outside" playing had an even more ethereal effect than they would have had in the cathedral.......

My experience in the local Episcopal Diocese where I live has also not been the same. One local church even has a Kirkin O'the Tartan service complete with Highland Cathedral played by The Citadel Pipe Band.

I understand you wouldn't wish to argue with the gentleman. I'll bet that Kirkin' is a sound to behold though. You'll have to grab some pictures next time.

[macwilkin]

Last year, my father-in-law passed away in Birmingham, Al. They were long time, faithful members of the Episcopal Church. When we were planning the funeral service the minister said the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church for the funeral service. He stated that their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war. They did consent to allow the piper to stand on the sidewalk in front of the church with the doors open so the attendees could hear the pipes.

I can't wait to share this story with several priests and a number of our local Scottish society members who are Episcopalian -- sounds like that rector flunked his church history course in Seminary -- the Episcopal Church USA's first Bishop, the Rt. Rev. Samuel Seabury, was consecrated in Aberdeen in 1784 by three Scottish Bishops! The SEC, not the C. of E., was responsible for the creation of the Communion, since it was not the established/state church of Scotland -- Seabury could not be consecrated in England being an American.

Todd (a 20 year "pisskie" who organizes the local Kirkin' at his Anglo-Catholic parish)

[MacBean]

Last year, my father-in-law passed away in Birmingham, Al. They were long time, faithful members of the Episcopal Church. When we were planning the funeral service the minister said the church had a prohibition against bagpipes inside the church for the funeral service. He stated that their affiliation with The Anglican Communion (The Church of England) still led them to view the bagpipes as an implement of war. They did consent to allow the piper to stand on the sidewalk in front of the church with the doors open so the attendees could hear the pipes.

Considering that the first Episcopalian bishop in the Colonies was created by Scottish rather than the Anglican bishops, this is truly odd. The Anglican Communion includes the Church of England I think, but is not equivalent to it. Of course, the English didn't like that our first Episcopalian bishop was of Scottish creation, so created two of their own.

[JSFMACLJR]

Considering that the first Episcopalian bishop in the Colonies was created by Scottish rather than the Anglican bishops, this is truly odd. The Anglican Communion includes the Church of England I think, but is not equivalent to it. Of course, the English didn't like that our first Episcopalian bishop was of Scottish creation, so created two of their own.

I don't think the pipes were played at Bishop Seabury's consecration.