Any -First-Hand- Experience With Pakistani Jackets?

[MacLowlife]

I got a nice PC from Josh, aka NorCal Piper, aka SKYE HIGHLAND OUTFITTERS. He can tell you more, but my recollection is that he specifies that his tailors are not in Pakistan. His website shows their Argyll as coming from Scotland- MADE there. I hope he will speak up and clarify this. Like so many X markers, he is friendly and easy to deal with. If you will post your budget, I expect some other retailers can offer advice.

[Taygrd]

I recently bought one when my tailored PC shrunk in the closet. Came with a vest as well. Both fit good and I wear them for formal occasions about four times a year. I would buy another one again. Have a link to the pic of it.
http://sites.google.com/site/taylorknives/about-me

[Piobair]

I got a nice PC from Josh, aka NorCal Piper, aka SKYE HIGHLAND OUTFITTERS. He can tell you more, but my recollection is that he specifies that his tailors are not in Pakistan. His website shows their Argyll as coming from Scotland- MADE there. I hope he will speak up and clarify this. Like so many X markers, he is friendly and easy to deal with. If you will post your budget, I expect some other retailers can offer advice.

Good point - Based on the patterns of the doublets and the pipes he was initially selling, I assumed at least some of his stuff was being made overseas. Assumption on my part - apologies.

I've dealt with Geoffrey in the past - I think I bought a crossbelt, spats and a few tunics through them. Workmanship was pretty good, but I remember the fabric being a kind of gaudy polyester. I also remember them being like $60 for each jacket, which I remember thinking was a steal - although this was about 16 years ago. I've been thinking about shoes as well... might be worth looking in to.

I really want to find an actual maker rather than a middleman. I'm considering Hakim Din, as they've been around for a while as well. They're pipes are reliably sh*te, but I'm curious about uniform parts.

[Chas]

I really want to find an actual maker rather than a middleman. I'm considering Hakim Din, as they've been around for a while as well. They're pipes are reliably sh*te, but I'm curious about uniform parts.

Hi Piobair,

Do you have a link for this Hakim Din?

Thanks

Regards

Chas

[Piobair]

Hi Piobair,

Do you have a link for this Hakim Din?

Thanks

Regards

Chas

Yep - it's right here. Looks like it might be a pirated image; it's not an uncommon practice and the sporran/kilt shown with the jacket (actually all the jackets) look a lot nicer than the ones they're selling on the kilt page. I'm still up in the air.

[Chas]

Thanks Piobair.

Regards

Chas

[madmacs]

Hi Piobair,

Do you have a link for this Hakim Din?

Thanks

Regards

Chas

Anyone know.anyone that has bought one of his jackets? $99 sounds too good to be true for a regulation doublet

[Chas]

Anyone know.anyone that has bought one of his jackets? $99 sounds too good to be true for a regulation doublet

Exactly my thoughts.

But -

Even if it is poorly made, a couple of hours, once a year...

Needs further investigation, I think.

Regards

Chas

[MacLowlife]

I am a big believer in paying for what you need, not more, but the problem with cheap goods is more complicated than that.
Cheap goods can be many things
1) Made of cheap material
2) Cheaply made
3) Cheaply designed

OK, each of these can have more than one component. For example, cheap material may be less comfortable or it may be less durable or it may be non colorfast or prone to shrinkage. Cheaply made may mean inadequate stitching or poor quality control or badly lined. Cheaply designed is the worst- try wearing a feed sack as a shirt. Try wearing a small-medium-large shirt in a situation where you need a 15X 34 shirt. Human beings are three dimensional and our appendages and shapes are complicated. A Lego man jacket will not flatter Barbie. Wearing a badly cut jacket is not going to work. ever.

On the other hand, low cost labor and hand work are hallmarks of various far eastern tailors. Measuring big avoids some problems brought about by skimpy tailoring. Being very specific avoids things we might never have thought to worry about- cuff width, number of buttons, collar construction, etc. Sending a picture can't hurt.

I suggest some smart XMarker should devise a logo- something on the lines of "I took one to find out about Hakam Din" with a clever image. Make up twenty five or so tee shirts. Sell them in the X market for $15.00. Draw the names of two purchasers and give them $100 to order a doublet with. Wait and see what happens.

[madmacs]

I do see some reviews of his pipes online... Which vary from playable to decent... None on clothing though