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    Re: Womens kilt

    Well - in my experience, girls wear kilts which are just like a man's in design, they close on the right but tend to be a bit longer to allow for growth, they would have been thought too short if anything more than slightly less than knee length.

    Women would wear a kilt of 27 inches length, again made in the same way as a man's, but quite possibly with fewer pleats, or finer fabric to make it lighter. The 27 inches being one half of the 54inch standard width for all wool cloth.

    Quite a few of the early 60's mini skirts made with a small set size lightweight Royal Stuart tartan and being worn by young women in South Yorkshire were made as a man's kilt would have been, but before long cheaper and less well made ones came in from abroad and they were just skirts with pleats in the back and no double apron.

    To my mind, the kilt is a standard design, and is worn the same way by all. Messing around with the direction of the pleats and the side to fasten is not what was done 50 years ago and more.

    You might check with your mother about what she would like - for both the style and the length so that you make something that would get worn rather than put away for special occasions.

    I wear skirts which vary in length from top of the knee to ankle, but the 27 inch ones seem to get the most use.

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    Re: Womens kilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleater View Post
    Well - in my experience, girls wear kilts which are just like a man's in design, they close on the right but tend to be a bit longer to allow for growth, they would have been thought too short if anything more than slightly less than knee length.

    Women would wear a kilt of 27 inches length, again made in the same way as a man's, but quite possibly with fewer pleats, or finer fabric to make it lighter. The 27 inches being one half of the 54inch standard width for all wool cloth.

    Quite a few of the early 60's mini skirts made with a small set size lightweight Royal Stuart tartan and being worn by young women in South Yorkshire were made as a man's kilt would have been, but before long cheaper and less well made ones came in from abroad and they were just skirts with pleats in the back and no double apron.

    To my mind, the kilt is a standard design, and is worn the same way by all. Messing around with the direction of the pleats and the side to fasten is not what was done 50 years ago and more.

    You might check with your mother about what she would like - for both the style and the length so that you make something that would get worn rather than put away for special occasions.

    I wear skirts which vary in length from top of the knee to ankle, but the 27 inch ones seem to get the most use.

    Anne the Pleater :ootd:
    What with the large number of people on this board who are gung-ho on customs from this era and preceding decades, I quite wish that more of them would read what you just wrote.

    I've been told this as well, by a woman of my acquaintance who emigrated to the USA around 1955.

    BOLD added by me, BTW.

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    Re: Womens kilt

    As people have said above, a traditional kilt is a man's garment. Women who play in pipe bands wear a traditional kilt, as do Highland dancers regardless of gender. There is literally no difference in how I make a kilt whether I make it for a man or a woman.

    Having said that, there are aspects of a traditional kilt that might not be something that your mother would choose or like. A trad kilt has a 2" rise, which is there so that the traditional short jacket (like a PC) can be worn without having a gap between the bottom of the jacket and the top of the kilt. This was the style of jacket worn with both kilts and trews back in the day (and trews had a high rise as well - think Jared in Labyrinth). The rise also keeps the bottom of the vest below the top of the kilt when a dancer raises her arms. Aaaaanyway, a 2" rise on a skirt isn't what your mother would expect, and you might want to cut the rise down. If you ordered a ladies kilt skirt, it wouldn't have the rise that a trad kilt has.

    Second, a trad kilt has a whole ton of heavy material in the back (roughly 6 yards of it....), and your mother might find that weird as well. That's why ladies kilt skirts have so much less fabric and are commonly pleated to the "nothing".

    Third, a trad kilt comes to the top of the knee. Chances are that your mom wouldn't be happy with a garment that short, which is also why women's kilt skirts are typically made longer than kilts are.

    And last, a trad kilt has very stiff interfacing across the pleats to help keep their shape, but it might feel weird for your mom. The ladies kilt skirts that are sold out there have very little interfacing.

    So, bottom line, I think that the issues are more rise, amount of fabric, length and amount of stiffening in the pleats, if what she's looking for is a comfortable garment that feels like a skirt. Opening right or left side is a trivial issue by comparison (although I will say that you can't just reverse the apron and under apron because then the pleats go the wrong way).
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