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1st December 11, 01:38 PM
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Re: Pipers' dress v Highland Dress
 Originally Posted by creagdhubh
I disagree with your assessment of P/M Gordon Webster's Argyll style kilt hose. I believe they do in fact match his tartan, which is the Balmoral tartan (a restricted tartan per The Royal Family), originally designed by HRH Prince Albert during the 19th-century. Of course, most of us already are well aware that Argyll style 'tartan' hose are meant to compliment the colours in the tartan of the kilt, and not match the tartan sett precisely. I believe P/M Webster's hose do just that -they have all of the pertinent colours of the Balmoral tartan.
Agree 100% Kyle. As the kilt and plaid would have been supplied on the authority of Her Majesty, I would hazzard a guess that the hose were supplied at the same time and you don't argue when you receive such an honour and privilege.
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
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1st December 11, 01:55 PM
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Re: Pipers' dress v Highland Dress
 Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt
Agree 100% Kyle. As the kilt and plaid would have been supplied on the authority of Her Majesty, I would hazzard a guess that the hose were supplied at the same time and you don't argue when you receive such an honour and privilege.
Quite!
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1st December 11, 11:00 PM
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Re: Pipers' dress v Highland Dress
May be of interest, the varied dress of the many Northern England pipe bands.
http://www.eyrewaves.co.uk/rspba/BandProfiles_intro.asp
The Oldham Scottish Pipe Band (I used to live near Oldham.)

Chris.
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2nd December 11, 03:45 AM
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Re: Pipers' dress v Highland Dress
 Originally Posted by chrisupyonder
A HA! So that's where those dreaded things came from...! Explains everything! ;)
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2nd December 11, 03:52 AM
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Re: Pipers' dress v Highland Dress
But seriously,
Thankyou gentlemen, especially OCRichard for the fantastic pictures.
I have to agree with others (and unfortunately disagree with OCRichard) that the hose of the Balmoral piper "match" just perfectly. (Perhaps not in the American sense of the word). I think they look very carefully considered and designed to complement the Balmoral tartan. Wonderful look!
Although I've of course seen the examples of Gordon Walker and John Burgess (I never tire of seeing them!), it's refreshing to me to see some of other examples.
Thanks again!
Cheers 
Michael
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5th December 11, 01:47 PM
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Re: Pipers' dress v Highland Dress
Great series of images.
It's interesting to look at some of the details.
In the first image, the piper has a belt and a plaid. In the second, most have plaids with only a few belts, but the jackets have piping.
By the third image, no belts or plaids, and no piping, but that comes back for the Dewars advert. Look at how short the lapels have gotten in that 1950's photo. In the 50's photo they all have tartan ties, and light hose. Two of the five have gillie brogues.
Going back to the 1900 photo, all dark hose and dark ties, and it appears that every one of them has a vest under his jacket.
What tartan is John D. Burgess wearing? Wow.
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6th December 11, 04:45 AM
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Re: Pipers' dress v Highland Dress
I went back and looked at the Balmoral photo again and I still think that the hose are a very poor match for the kilt.
The hose are 50/50 red and offwhite, while the tartan is predominately grey. (Note that the hose match the Dress Stewart drone ribbon much better than the kilt.)
If designing tartan hose for that tartan I would make the large 50/50 areas two tones of grey (pale grey and mid-grey) as in the tartan, with fine lines of red and black/charcoal grey as in the tartan.
BTW in The Highlanders of Scotland there are a few men wearing kilts of Balmoral tartan, and they are all wearing plain grey hose.
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