[QUOTE=warrior;1045771]That's it exactly. At two inches over a fathom I have never had an issue with the "tail" hanging low. Most quality ties have sufficient length to give enough material to work with; but many do not. My tartan tie is one of those, the length is just enough that once tied I have barely enough tail to slide it open enough to squeeze it over my head. I know I just admitted to "pre tying" my ties, but the real issue is that with a tail that short it falls way short of the keeper loop. I find myself constantly retucking the short tail back into the top of my shirt as it lacks the mass to stay put whenever the face of the tie moves.
BTW, am I the only one who ties the Pratt?[/QUOTE

Some vendors make their collections available in an extra long version at a slightly higher cost. An alternative would be to move the keeper or to add one at the proper spot for you.