Kilt Alteration Question. Help...

[LitTrog]

Or I could take it off your hands for 20 dollars...

[truckie561]

Or I could take it off your hands for 20 dollars...

You're a Helluva Guy!! Way to look out for a fella when he's down...Gotta pass though.

[LitTrog]

You're a Helluva Guy!! Way to look out for a fella when he's down...Gotta pass though.

Awww, nerts! 25?

I don't have any advice, but there are many craftspeople on here who will surely be able to let you know the best fix. Good luck to you!

[Mickey]

You're a Helluva Guy!! Way to look out for a fella when he's down...Gotta pass though.

I know, right? That is easily worth the 30 bucks I'll pay you for it since it will fit me perfectly, and will save you the anguish of trying to figure out what to do now.

Seriously though, try the extenders. At worst, it doesn't look good and you are out a couple of bucks and you could probably resell them here. And as pookie.. ahem.. LitTrog.... has said, there are a lot of talented folks here who could probably do an alteration for you for not much cash.

And if they can't.. I got 30 bucks burning a hole in my pocket....

[Barb T]

The folds on each side of the apron and underapron serve three purposes. On the outer apron and underapron edges, they form the facings so that there aren't any raw edges showing on the underapron and so that the fringe edge can enclose a second strip of fabric for the double fringe (and give the fringe edge some stiffness and stability). On the inner apron and underapron edges (adjacent to the pleats), the fold serves as a pleat that makes it possible to walk comfortably in the kilt without having the apron and underapron "pull". And third, many kilts are made with a little extra fabric in all three areas so that the kilt can be altered and made bigger.

Having said that, altering a kilt to change the size is a major undertaking, and a kiltmaker who does it properly should charge you a bundle. It involves removing the buckles, straps, lining, and top band, unstitching the both edges of the apron and underapron (because the aprons need to be altered symmetrically to preserve the center stripes), remarking a larger size apron and underapron, and putting the whole thing back together again, basting, and pressing. Basically, you're re-doing everything except the pleats, steeking, and stabilizer, and there's the time involved in taking the whole thing apart to begin with. If it's done properly, a kiltmaker ought to to charge $150-200 in labor for such an alteration (at least half the labor cost charged by custom kiltmakers for a new kilt).

And, depending on how a kilt was made in the first place, it might not even be possible to do this - depends on where a kiltmaker started cutting out the pleats and how much extra fabric there is in the deep pleat, the inverted pleat, and the facings.

Bottom line, if you can live with the underapron showing at the fringe edge, move the buckles and straps or buy strap extenders.

[truckie561]

And third, many kilts are made with a little extra fabric in all three areas so that the kilt can be altered and made bigger.

So that leaves the question of "How much of this apron edge is safe to play with in order to expand the kilt, without getting into rebuilding the entire kilt?" Can I leave a half inch of material, an inch, or is more material typically desirable to keep that weight on the ends?

Thanks for your response Barb. Just got your book, btw. It's helped me decipher a lot of the terminology used on this forum. I feel honored that you took some time to respond. Pretty cool.

[Barb T]

So that leaves the question of "How much of this apron edge is safe to play with in order to expand the kilt, without getting into rebuilding the entire kilt?" Can I leave a half inch of material, an inch, or is more material typically desirable to keep that weight on the ends?

Thanks for your response Barb. Just got your book, btw. It's helped me decipher a lot of the terminology used on this forum. I feel honored that you took some time to respond. Pretty cool.

The problem is that you can't just let out the kilt at the fringe edge without rebuilding the whole kilt, or the center front stripe in the apron doesn't stay centered (i.e., you have to to let out both sides of the apron the same amount). So, actually, the answer to your question is "none", unless you're willing to living with an off-center center stripe.

And I'm always happy to answer questions - so the honor is mine!

[LitTrog]

And as pookie.. ahem.. LitTrog.... has said

It's clear you're talking about me, but I have no idea who "pookie" is. Pookey, or even POOKEY!! is a handle I sometimes use, yes, but it bears no relation to that combination of letters you used. Lower-case letters and an "ie" ending? I don't know what I've done to warrant such disrespect, Mickey.

[Mickey]

Lower-case letters and an "ie" ending? I don't know what I've done to warrant such disrespect, Mickey.

You are quite right. I couldn't remember which way it was. I blame it on the scotch. My apologies good sir

[truckie561]

I know, right? That is easily worth the 30 bucks I'll pay you for it since it will fit me perfectly, and will save you the anguish of trying to figure out what to do now.

Seriously though, try the extenders. At worst, it doesn't look good and you are out a couple of bucks and you could probably resell them here. And as pookie.. ahem.. LitTrog.... has said, there are a lot of talented folks here who could probably do an alteration for you for not much cash.

And if they can't.. I got 30 bucks burning a hole in my pocket....

The overwhelming generosity of you two guys is nothing short of amazing...What a forum!!!