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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    As I said earlier, the OP did a great job pleating and draping his plaid. And to David's points, I get it that the belted-plaid is not generally worn these days, but my point is: why shouldn't it be? It's only less "modern" than the 8 yd knife-pleat kilt by about 2 decades. In it's last incarnation, the belted-plaid was considered a very formal garment. I see no reason why it can't fill such a role today. It's no more "archaic" than the kilts we wear every day. If imitating the belted-plaid with fly plaids is okay, then why not the real thing?
    The key phrase seems to be, "In its last incarnation..." I think the simple answer is that if worn with period clothing (such as in your avatar) the great kilt is fine, as a costume, in much the same way that a 1930's Zoot Suit is fine as a costume, but rather inappropriate for wear in the present day.

    As a garment, worn in the Highlands of Scotland, the great kilt really existed for a very short period of time, compared to the two centuries that the "little kilt" has been worn. As a result, like knee britches, the great kilt really has become an item of historical costume and, like the aforementioned Zoot suit or the platform shoes and 18-inch bell bottomed trousers of the 1970s, doesn't have a place in "modern" attire.

    As regards David Pope's comments concerning the fly plaid, all I can say is "Damn, but David's a perceptive chap!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    The key phrase seems to be, "In its last incarnation..." I think the simple answer is that if worn with period clothing (such as in your avatar) the great kilt is fine, as a costume, in much the same way that a 1930's Zoot Suit is fine as a costume, but rather inappropriate for wear in the present day.

    As a garment, worn in the Highlands of Scotland, the great kilt really existed for a very short period of time, compared to the two centuries that the "little kilt" has been worn. As a result, like knee britches, the great kilt really has become an item of historical costume and, like the aforementioned Zoot suit or the platform shoes and 18-inch bell bottomed trousers of the 1970s, doesn't have a place in "modern" attire.

    As regards David Pope's comments concerning the fly plaid, all I can say is "Damn, but David's a perceptive chap!"
    Again, I get all of this! The concept being pushed here is "resurrecting" the belted-plaid for present day formal wear. Again, I ask, "Why not?" The response, "It's just not done, old boy" doesn't hold any water for me. If current traditional Highland dress was actually "modern", I might agree with you more. But ALL of its elements are holdovers from decades and centuries past (and pre-date the zoot suit!)....
    Brian

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