Actually MacL, my beard is pulled into a ponytail in these pics. I do that when I ride my Motorcycle or am working in the kitchen. I still have the full 13 or so inches. The next jacket in this cut will black wool or black velvet or silk. They have a few more traditional cuts that might be more like an Argyle or a Wallace. For my purposes in testing the performance of the company in question and the quality of the product, and as an experiment with the Mandarin cut I am quite pleased.
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