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15th July 12, 11:50 AM
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 Originally Posted by longhuntr74
...Disagree CC! The 42d, during the American Revolution, wore BLUE facings (the color worn by all "Royal" regiments) and the officers wore gold braid . These facings, at least in my eyes, are clearly GREEN with silver braid, indicating Hugh Montgomerie to be a member of the 77th Highlanders (called Montgomery's Highlanders after their Colonel, Archibold Montgomery)...see post #8. I was wrong on the event that the painting depicted...but stick by my call on the regiment!
officers wore gold facing and regular men wore silver facing. and the jacket design tell me its revolutionary
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17th July 12, 03:03 AM
#2
Originally Posted by clan campbell
officers wore gold facing and regular men wore silver facing. and the jacket design tell me its revolutionary
No regiments wore gold facing or silver facing. The "facings" were the lapels on the front of the jacket, the collar, and cuffs, and were Buff, White, Yellow, Blue, or Dark Green. The "lace" was gold or silver depending on regiment.
Barnes gives the following table for 1800 (I've only included the kilted regiments)
Regiment/ Tartan/ Facings/ Lace
42nd/ 42nd/ Blue/ Gold
71st/ MacKenzie/ Buff/ Silver
72nd/ MacKenzie/ Yellow/ Silver
73rd/ 42nd/ Dark Green/ Gold
74th/ 42nd/ White/ Gold
75th/ Gordon/ Yellow/ Silver
78th/ MacKenzie/ Buff/ Gold
79th/ Cameron of Erracht/ Dark Green/ Gold
91st/ 42nd/ Yellow/ Silver
92nd/ Gordon/ Yellow/ Silver
93rd/ 42nd/ Yellow/ Silver
The 77th did not exist in 1800 but we are told that it wore Dark Green facings with Silver lace (interesting because regiments with Dark Green facings usually wore Gold lace.)
Yes indeed that jacket style is of 1780, when the painting was done, and quite different from the style of jacket worn 20 years earlier.
Last edited by OC Richard; 17th July 12 at 03:14 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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17th July 12, 05:52 AM
#3
Originally Posted by OC Richard
No regiments wore gold facing or silver facing. The "facings" were the lapels on the front of the jacket, the collar, and cuffs, and were Buff, White, Yellow, Blue, or Dark Green. The "lace" was gold or silver depending on regiment.
Barnes gives the following table for 1800 (I've only included the kilted regiments)
Regiment/ Tartan/ Facings/ Lace
42nd/ 42nd/ Blue/ Gold
71st/ MacKenzie/ Buff/ Silver
72nd/ MacKenzie/ Yellow/ Silver
73rd/ 42nd/ Dark Green/ Gold
74th/ 42nd/ White/ Gold
75th/ Gordon/ Yellow/ Silver
78th/ MacKenzie/ Buff/ Gold
79th/ Cameron of Erracht/ Dark Green/ Gold
91st/ 42nd/ Yellow/ Silver
92nd/ Gordon/ Yellow/ Silver
93rd/ 42nd/ Yellow/ Silver
The 77th did not exist in 1800 but we are told that it wore Dark Green facings with Silver lace (interesting because regiments with Dark Green facings usually wore Gold lace.)
Yes indeed that jacket style is of 1780, when the painting was done, and quite different from the style of jacket worn 20 years earlier.
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