Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
If you don't really want to be interested in authentic Highland Dress then go somewhere else.
So does this mean you are or are not saying that a woman can wear what is traditionally not a woman's garment?

(Not trying to be contentious, actually, but your post sounds like it's in favor of women wearing a full kilt until this part... where it sounds like you're arguing that if a woman is wishing to wear a full kilt, then it is not "authentic," with "authentic" for a woman being a kilted skirt, hostess kilt, or an arisaid or some other garment from the past, and some might certainly interpret it that way.)



Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
Now I am starting to wonder here and as a mere male I am having to be careful here, but------.

So baring in mind my accumulated and admittedly meagre knowledge of female attire gathered over a fairly long life and in consultation with Mrs Jock and a couple of her friends sat around the breakfast table at this very moment the consensus is:-

That unless women are playing in a pipe band, women do not wear kilts. However they do wear tartan skirts in various lengths with pleats in and yes school uniform can require females to wear kilted(I am assuming they are talking pleats here?------yes they are) tartan skirts.

Just asked another question to the committee. What about women wearing a mans kilt?

After gales of laughter and comments like man's kilts would go round us six times! The answer was; "If we wanted to, we would, but they(mans kilt) are not cut to fit the female shape and they are so heavy."

Just saying.
This woman wears a full kilt. After wearing one for dance, I'd never go back to a boring, low-yardage kilted skirt that has no movement to it.

Sure, if I picked up my former partner's kilt it would go around me several times... because it was not MADE for me. MY full-pleated kilt fits just fine (it wasn't made for me either as I bought it secondhand, but it WAS made FOR a woman with similar measurements). Perhaps you argue it's not a "proper" kilt because it's not 8 yards, if you consider only amount of material used instead of construction, but the pleats are a "proper" depth; it's just that I am not as large as most of the men here so I have no need for an 8-yard kilt (it would be like one of you wearing a kilt of ten or twelve yards) and mine is probably around 6 yards.

And "they are so heavy"? Funny, that's the same thing I hear about a lot of things people think I shouldn't be lifting because I'm so delicate and stuff. I lift them anyway. And it's always the other people who turn purple in the face about it, not me. I do just fine.


Of course, take anything I say with a grain of salt as I often get weird looks for wearing sporran and sgian dubh. And don't really care. I can't think of any good reason for me not to do so; the arguments are usually simply "but... girls don't do that!" Oh my, if we women had always acted according to that "rule"... And of course we won't mention the fact that I also 1. spend my time doing a man's dance, which plenty of men seem to still be sore about if some comments I've seen around the 'net (not here) about female dancers are true, and 2. haven't a drop of Scottish blood (as far as I know) but I wear a kilt anyway, so clearly my opinion is worth naught anyway, besides the fact that I'm a contentious bitch who hates people telling me what to do, esp. when their opinion is based solely on what is under my kilt.

Me, it ranges from a plain black t-shirt for casual wear to a more dressy black top or sweater. I've never been the "frilly blouse" sort so a jabot is right out. Haven't worn with a vest or jacket yet but it might be worth a shot some time.


Quote Originally Posted by neloon View Post
I have talked privately with many of the top (and I really mean that) judges in Scotland and I can assure you that interpretation of "rules" on dress here might surprise and disturb you. Call it "marked down" if you like. I will say no more!
Alan
I've always been told the rules state that 5 points can be removed for violating the dress code. I imagine one would be disqualified for wearing the entirely wrong outfit (jig outfit for Highland dances, for example), but I had never understood one would be entirely disqualified from a dance simply for violating a minor rule (especially since many of the rules are so vague and many dancers seem to have "invented" interpretations that are more stringent than the actual written rules would imply-- there actually seems to be a lot of angst about this, to the point that I've seen intense debates over whether one can wear one's hair with bangs/fringe). Mind you, the removal of five points could have a significant effect on one's placement if the results were close. If judges are judging based on personal preference even though it's not necessarily what SOBHD regulations say, then that is another issue altogether.