Going Regimental?

[Phil]

So Phil, rail agains the tradition if you like, but don't try to blame it on the Americans and act like it wasn't conceived and perpetuated by Scots themselves.

Nathan, I have no issues with you "going commando" although I am not sure that it was conceived and perpetuated by Scots. The gentleman you quote has his own views which I respect but I would not particularly ascribe them to Scots in general. Most of whom never wear a kilt of course. That it should be a matter of contention, however, does concern me somewhat as I do have views on the matter. At dances and ceilidhs I am not sure that the exposure of ones genitals while dancing to the assembled company is particularly welcome. Similarly I have evidence that the presence of bodily secretions acts as an attractant to vermin - namely clothes moths - and the wearing of underwear helps to minimise this. If you wish to persist in your predilection, however, I would strongly suggest dry cleaning after each outing together with an effective moth-repellant in your wardrobe to minimise risk. As to the offence caused to other members of your company, well, that is something for you to handle in whatever way you consider appropriate. As regards young children that has to be something that your own conscience must deal with although the law nowadays has something to say in such matters.

[Nathan]

Nathan, I have no issues with you "going commando" although I am not sure that it was conceived and perpetuated by Scots. The gentleman you quote has his own views which I respect but I would not particularly ascribe them to Scots in general. Most of whom never wear a kilt of course. That it should be a matter of contention, however, does concern me somewhat as I do have views on the matter. At dances and ceilidhs I am not sure that the exposure of ones genitals while dancing to the assembled company is particularly welcome. Similarly I have evidence that the presence of bodily secretions acts as an attractant to vermin - namely clothes moths - and the wearing of underwear helps to minimise this. If you wish to persist in your predilection, however, I would strongly suggest dry cleaning after each outing together with an effective moth-repellant in your wardrobe to minimise risk. As to the offence caused to other members of your company, well, that is something for you to handle in whatever way you consider appropriate. As regards young children that has to be something that your own conscience must deal with although the law nowadays has something to say in such matters.

Obviously, if you're engaged in an activity that exposure would be a reasonable risk (heavy events at Highland Games, Highland dancing), you would take the appropriate measures to protect your modesty. I have a kilt that is over 100 years old and I've had it for 20 years. It's moth free and clean. I air it out before hanging it back up on a cedar hangar in a zippered suit bag, and periodically I have it dry cleaned, although that's mostly because the box pleats sometimes need a refresh so a cleaning, basting and pressing happens all at once. I don't dry clean it too often because it's bad for the wool. My kilt doesn't stink and there have been no moth attacks etc.

You've only addressed one example of one of the points I made. A Scottish kilt maker said generally Scots wear nothing under their kilt. I'll grant you that he has a military background, but he has as much authority as yourself to speak to the general Scottish custom.

Slanj kilts (Glasgow/Edinburgh) refers to "True Scotsman" and it's a given that people are acquainted with the tradition. You also didn't address my contention that it stems from the Highland military tradition (i.e., Scots).

I think it's fair to say that the tradition (whether you like it or don't) is indeed a Scottish one.

Regarding small Children, I've never seen this be an issue at any kilted event in my life nor have I ever exposed myself while wearing the kilt. A drunken lady or two may have pulled me aside to a secluded corner and attempted to check with a curious hand, but that's a story for another day... Shrug.


Yours happy, hygienic & Highland,

Nathan

[TJ Kelley]

I am thinking several of you have missed the boat as to my question. Whether to or to not wear underwear was never asked.
I could care less what each and every one of you do down below, that is your prerogative.

Rather... I'd love to hear "from more experienced members" a better style or product to wear in formal kilted situations. When I ask a question it is seeking knowledge, not a reaction from a bunch of kilted men.

And grouping any nationality into a sexually perverted category is just ignorant.

[Phil]

I am thinking several of you have missed the boat as to my question. Whether to or to not wear underwear was never asked.
I could care less what each and every one of you do down below, that is your prerogative.

Rather... I'd love to hear "from more experienced members" a better style or product to wear in formal kilted situations. When I ask a question it is seeking knowledge, not a reaction from a bunch of kilted men.

And grouping any nationality into a sexually perverted category is just ignorant.

I apologise and was not delibertely trying to pigeonhole any nationality into any sexually perverted category. As such I resent your insinuation that I am "just ignorant". I may be a lot of things, contentious. argumentative whatever, but ignorant is not one of them. Your premise comes from a very identifiable transatlantic idea that Scottish people do not wear underwear "intimate apparel" in the idiom of your people. Where exactly this strange notion originates from I have no idea but I can assure you that we do, in fact, wear underwear. Even when wearing kilts I might add we do wear underwear. Now I am quite able to accept the fact that there are some individuals who do not wear underwear, just as there are some women who do not wear brassierres or some men who wear shorts year round. These are all personal choices but should not be construed as "de riguer". If you wish to attribute some frisson of naughtiness to kilt-wearing by means of its association then so be it. But please do not seek to diminish me or my views by association with your own pre-conceived ideas of "Scottishness".

[TheOfficialBren]

Sorry if I seemed "snarky." But

STILL, it's a topic that has been beaten to death over and over and over again.

[Friday]

Inappropriate post - My apologies to the group.

[kiltedrennie]

I've not had any problem with my boxer briefs. At least no more than I do when wearing pants. But I have a PV kilt that is fairly light, which I suspect makes a difference. Are you wearing a heavy wool six yard or longer kilt?

[TheOfficialBren]

First: if you were a new member how would you feel if you were yelled at in on of your first post? Words in all caps are the email/forum equivalent of yelling and has been for over 30 years.



Second: did you READ THE POST or or only the title? The question is not going regimental but: "Does anyone else have th[e] problem" of "When wearing underwear I always get the feeling they are falling down below my "lack of ****", or binding against the kilt fabric"? (question reorganized for clarity.) I don't believe I have seen this question before, but I have not read every posts.

Okay. I tried being diplomatic and apologising but you aren't having it.

Have fun. Peace out.

[Friday]

I am thinking several of you have missed the boat as to my question. Whether to or to not wear underwear was never asked.
I could care less what each and every one of you do down below, that is your prerogative.

TJ Kelly be aware once a question has been asked a thread has a life of its own. *** Deleted Text ****Occasionally you will need to bring them back to topic and see if you can get help.

As for experience, don't be fooled by the number of posts as and indication of experience, as an former employer once said "after a year of working, one employee may have a years worth of experience and another may have one days worth of experience repeated 365 time."

[Carlo]

TJ Kelly be aware once a question has been asked a thread has a life of its own. Many don;t seem to really look at the question but just the general topic and get on their soap box. This is part of the this forum that you will have to just understand and accept. Occasionally you will need to bring them back to topic and see if you can get help.

As for experience, don't be fooled by the number of posts as and indication of experience, as an former employer once said "after a year of working, one employee may have a years worth of experience and another may have one days worth of experience repeated 365 time."

Kyle to that .

I've been to Ceilidhs in Scotland and to be honest I've seen things I never wanted to see. The point I want to make is, that some don't know when something should be worn under the kilt. For me my normal black underwear works together with a dark tartan.
How to hold them up, well you could attach buttons to the kilt-lining and your pair of whatever.