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    Since this is tailored to young men, I would say that the most obvious piece of etiquette many of them lack (and the most noticeable trait when someone actually does have it) is speaking respectfully to others, especially their elders. A simple "sir" or "ma'am" goes a long way when addressing someone in a respectful manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
    Since this is tailored to young men, I would say that the most obvious piece of etiquette many of them lack (and the most noticeable trait when someone actually does have it) is speaking respectfully to others, especially their elders. A simple "sir" or "ma'am" goes a long way when addressing someone in a respectful manner.
    I'd never, ever refer to someone as "Sir" or "Ma'am" unless they had the title to go with it. Respect is one thing, obsequiousness is another.

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    You might want to talk to them about picking up their feet rather than shuffling and scuffling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andycwb View Post
    I'd never, ever refer to someone as "Sir" or "Ma'am" unless they had the title to go with it. Respect is one thing, obsequiousness is another.

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    It's not "referring to them" that way, it's addressing them that way because it's a polite kindness.
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    Always told to pass women and children by being nearest to road , not to speak over people . Not to ignore a question and listen, listen , listen men are not born , we are made!

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    A bit of political correctness could be helpful. Awareness for other cultures and their customs is also important for people who live in areas with a lot of diversity or who travel to other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMcG View Post
    A bit of political correctness could be helpful. Awareness for other cultures and their customs is also important for people who live in areas with a lot of diversity or who travel to other countries.
    I'm not sure about that one, Colin. Political correctness has come to mean no criticism. I think that people should learn to accept constructive crticism. Constructive criticism should be seen as an aid.

    Edited to add: Evidently, I'm with you about the awareness for other cultures and their customs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCAC View Post
    I'm not sure about that one, Colin. Political correctness has come to mean no criticism. I think that people should learn to accept constructive crticism. Constructive criticism should be seen as an aid.
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    I've never heard of political correctness meaning no criticism A quick look at the dictionary shows the meaning I'm familiar with, which is the one I intended: speech that avoids discrimination against age, gender, ethnicity, class, religion, and/or sexual orientation.

    Some people take this too far and their language becomes neutral to the point of vagueness, hence why I suggested "a bit" of political correctness. Nonetheless, modern etiquette needs to encompass it in order to avoid inadvertently causing offence to various historically, politically, socially, or economically disadvantaged groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andycwb View Post
    I'd never, ever refer to someone as "Sir" or "Ma'am" unless they had the title to go with it. Respect is one thing, obsequiousness is another.

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    It very much depends on the culture.
    In the UK, you only call a teacher, officer or magistrate sir, but I know when I lived in the US for a while, young people were expected to call their elders "Sir" or "Ma'am".
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