white coatee as a warm weather option

[Chas]

The white coatee is for black tie events, generally in the tropics and only in the summer months. There are specific dates, but as I don't live in the tropics, I have never bothered to learn them. The UK does not qualify and I don't think that anywhere in Canada would either.

But all that apart, the important thing is that it is for black tie events. That is to say, the level just under the most formal, a black bow tie and after 18:00.

If the conditions are met, I see no reason why it should not be worn.

I have just noticed that this thread is in the "Contemporary Made Kilts and How to Wear Them" board. I do not think a white coatee should be worn with anything less than a tartan kilt.

[Tobus]

That first photo in your examples was me. It was an 'experimental' photo just to see what it would look like with a kilt. The tie and sporran I was wearing were wholly inappropriate for that level of dress, and as Chas mentions, it would need to be worn with a black bow tie. The jacket in question was my grandfather's US Air Force mess jacket. Mess jackets make for excellent kilt jackets due to their length. If you can find a military surplus one and modify it for your needs (by changing out the military buttons and removing the shoulder board loops), it's a real winner for hot weather!

One of these days, I'll put together some photos of that jacket with a more appropriate black tie level of accoutrements.

[TomFromBama]

Not to hijack the thread, but this topic in general (warm weather options) is of considerable interest to me, being a newbie and living in Coastal Alabama, where our temperatures routinely run in excess of 80 deg. F (at 80-100% humidity) for 6-7 months a year on average.

I absolutely love the look of the thick wool stockings, wool waistcoats under wool jackets, topped with wool hats - all of it looks fantastic to me, but honestly, I can't imagine wearing anything like that (at least not outdoors) any time its over 70 degrees or so, which is pretty much ~9 months a year.

The tip on military mess jackets is appreciated, and one I'll need to look into!

FYI, White tuxedo jackets ARE well accepted and used for black tie events around here during summer months. I'm not positive on the dates, but I assume it to be the same calendar that applies to white shoes and panama hats, though I have seen white jackets at black tie events in Mobile even before Easter.

[artificer]

I think Jeeves said it best

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[plaid preacher]

Artificer... your Google-fu is better than mine!! I went looking for that clip when I first saw this post, and couldn't find it. Well played, Sir.

Deliasgubas, I was a reservist when they white mess jackets were gaining popularity; and I do kinda like them (despite what Jeeves says). If you have sufficient occasion to wear it, then sin boldly, I say.

[Nathan]

I don't think that anywhere in Canada would either.

Interesting. Have you been to Canada in the summer? Most of the country is extremely hot and humid in July and August. The UK climate is dramatically less extreme.

Nathan

[Chas]

Yes, Nathan. I grew up in Canada.

[Nathan]

Yes, Nathan. I grew up in Canada.

Even more interesting!

[rondo]

In the US, I was taught that white or ivory dinner jackets were appropriate from Memorial Day [late May] until Labor Day [early September]. I think the same would apply to a PC or Mess Jacket.
Rondo

[Benning Boy]

The US Army, back when there were many uniform variations specified in regulations dates for wearing warm weather and other weather uniforms. It varied by geographic location. Generally in most of the Original 48 states, as best as I can remember, the warm weather uniform could be worn from April 15 to October 15. Also, those are the dates when the furnaces were lit, or shut down. Sometimes we got awful cold wearing warm weather uniforms on very chilly days. Air conditioning, that is air cooling, was not government issued in those days. I'd wear a white mess jacket during that six-month period and not feel freaky.