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30th January 15, 12:05 PM
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You are quite right, I was just pointing out that there are other levels of formality but this project does give us a one to ten so that we can at least be on the same sheet of music when discussing kilt accessories with respect to formal dress. At least we have a scale so when I say that a kilt can go from -3 to 13 we can somewhat understand the idea.
Back a few years ago the US Army had Dress Greens, a tan Dress Uniform, Dress Blues, Dress Whites, Mess Dress Whites and Mess Dress Blues each with a differing level of formality. So I believe there to be levels of formality beyond white tie then you can see where my thinking is coming from.
As for the great kilt, it did exist historically. If anything it is less of a costume than the little kilt is. Properly accessorized it could theoretically be worn as formal wear.
Last edited by Sir Robert; 30th January 15 at 06:44 PM.
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30th January 15, 09:37 PM
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 Originally Posted by Sir Robert
...Back a few years ago the US Army had Dress Greens, a tan Dress Uniform, Dress Blues, Dress Whites, Mess Dress Whites and Mess Dress Blues each with a differing level of formality. So I believe there to be levels of formality beyond white tie then you can see where my thinking is coming from.
Glen and I are representing civilian dress in our different outfits and for civilian outfits here in the US "white tie equivalent" is the most formal level of dress one can don. As neither of us are part of a Scottish or Canadian regiment that includes kilts as part of their uniform neither of us are qualified to represent military formal looks.
 Originally Posted by Sir Robert
...As for the great kilt, it did exist historically. If anything it is less of a costume than the little kilt is. Properly accessorized it could theoretically be worn as formal wear.
I don't think I suggested the belted plaid didn't exist, however to put it in the time of Queen Elizabeth is a bit of a stretch. Certainly the various highland outfits one sees at an average Renaissance Faire have more to do with Fantasy than History. As to whether or not a belted plaid/great kilt is appropriate formalwear item or not, I have little interest in such debate as this historical garment has nothing to do with the modern version of the traditional kilt that our thread is about.
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Jamie
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7th March 15, 11:58 PM
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Last edited by Cyd; 17th March 15 at 03:49 AM.
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8th March 15, 12:49 AM
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Last edited by Liam; 15th March 15 at 10:02 PM.
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well, that comes from poor judgement."
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8th March 15, 01:01 AM
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Last edited by Liam; 15th March 15 at 10:03 PM.
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
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15th March 15, 08:45 AM
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Last edited by Cyd; 17th March 15 at 03:46 AM.
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15th March 15, 10:41 AM
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Last edited by Liam; 15th March 15 at 10:04 PM.
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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15th March 15, 11:33 AM
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Last edited by Cyd; 17th March 15 at 03:47 AM.
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15th March 15, 07:45 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by Cyd
I'm not sure what you mean by "hijacked."
Hijacking is a term commonly understood to mean "steering the discussion away from it's initial intended purpose." In this instance, the original post makes no reference to, nor was it intended to discuss, the belted plaid. The original poster (Panache/Jamie) further reinforced, and gave rational, in response # 246.
Hence, any discussion of the belted plaid should go in other existing threads that are targeted at that style of kilt, or in the event said threads are closed, opened and discussed anew, as a new thread outwith this one.
Hope that helps.
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15th March 15, 09:00 AM
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Last edited by Cyd; 17th March 15 at 03:46 AM.
Reason: Too reactive. I don't want to be guilty of what I complain about - intimidating others
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