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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    The scots have sold goods to the world and if the world wants it then they will buy it. Look at the whisky sales.
    You are losing focus and did not address anything I've said as it pertains to the specific 'selling' of Scots/Clans to the diaspora....if you hit the earlier provided link to a company in Edinburgh it asks you to 'find your Clan'....now, who has a Clan in Scotland? The Pakistani's? No, perhaps the diaspora with the same name.

    Here is another avenue that is extremely common...."Come home to Scotland"

    http://www.travelagentcentral.com/un...-home-scotland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
    You are losing focus and did not address anything I've said as it pertains to the specific 'selling' of Scots/Clans to the diaspora....if you hit the earlier provided link to a company in Edinburgh it asks you to 'find your Clan'....now, who has a Clan in Scotland? The Pakistani's? No, perhaps the diaspora with the same name.

    Here is another avenue that is extremely common...."Come home to Scotland"

    http://www.travelagentcentral.com/un...-home-scotland
    It a free world, the trade, any trade, try to sell to the rest of the world and the customer might or might not buy depending on how he/she feels at the time. Its the same the world over.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    It a free world, the trade, any trade, try to sell to the rest of the world and the customer might or might not buy depending on how he/she feels at the time. Its the same the world over.
    Jock, obtuse does not become you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
    Jock, obtuse does not become you.
    I am not in the least being obtuse. We/I sell much of the produce from the farms on the world market and much of what I buy is based the world market. Perfect it is not and mostly we/I try to win and sometimes---not too often I hope------ we/I loose. That is how it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I am not in the least being obtuse. We/I sell much of the produce from the farms on the world market and much of what I buy is based the world market. Perfect it is not and mostly we/I try to win and sometimes---not too often I hope------ we/I loose. That is how it is.
    Then let me break it down for you. Your comment above is marketing jibberjabber.

    You, your Countrymen and Scotland, have been aggressively selling more than bits of cloth.....when you go to that Scottish website it directs you to "find YOUR Clan Tartan"....that indicates inclusiveness and exclusivity at the same time....not 'a' Tartan...YOUR Clan tartan.
    What you've been selling is an idea...an idea of Scots ness that extends beyond your borders...and you've been marketing that idea, that thought, for decades.
    When a travel bureau says 'Come home to Scotland' what idea are they selling...who can 'come home'?
    You've been pushing an idea, a state of mind, a thought for decades and are now upset that people actually bought into that 'idea'.
    No Jock, it is not a bottle of scotch nor a Farm implement....you've been selling an idea..an attitude...you've been selling your Scotishness abroad and are now upset we've taken the bait.
    Sorry....you've been hoist with your own petard...there is another analogy that comes to mind but I'll leave it there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
    Then let me break it down for you. Your comment above is marketing jibberjabber.

    You, your Countrymen and Scotland, have been aggressively selling more than bits of cloth.....when you go to that Scottish website it directs you to "find YOUR Clan Tartan"....that indicates inclusiveness and exclusivity at the same time....not 'a' Tartan...YOUR Clan tartan.
    What you've been selling is an idea...an idea of Scots ness that extends beyond your borders...and you've been marketing that idea, that thought, for decades.
    When a travel bureau says 'Come home to Scotland' what idea are they selling...who can 'come home'?
    You've been pushing an idea, a state of mind, a thought for decades and are now upset that people actually bought into that 'idea'.
    No Jock, it is not a bottle of scotch nor a Farm implement....you've been selling an idea..an attitude...you've been selling your Scotishness abroad and are now upset we've taken the bait.
    Sorry....you've been hoist with your own petard...there is another analogy that comes to mind but I'll leave it there.
    If you want to fall for marketing jargon feel free, the choice is absolutely in the potential customer's hands. Anyone, everyone, has their marketing patter and yes absolutely, the diaspora are certainly a target and the tartan trade do pretty well at it, I have to say I do wonder how long they will get away with it. Its true the tourist trade have sold Scotland in all its forms ruthlessly for well over 150 years and many Scots are brassed off with it, nevertheless if there is no willing buyer the the willing seller is snookered. Thats trade.

    We do not make farm machinery on our farms, but we are great users of international farm machinery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    If you want to fall marketing jargon feel free, the choice is absolutely in the potential customer's hands. Anyone, everyone, has their marketing patter and the yes absolutely, the diaspora are certainly a target and the tartan trade do pretty well at it, I have to say I do wonder how long they will get away with it. Its true the tourist trade have sold Scotland in all its forms ruthlessly for well over 150 years and many Scots are brassed off with it, nevertheless if there is no willing buyer the the willing seller is snookered. Thats trade.

    We do not make farm machinery on our farms, but we are great users of international farm machinery.
    Well, there you have it.....you've marketed the thing you find upsetting.
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