New tweed waistcoat

**Mike S** · 6th July 18, 07:49 AM

What tartan is that? I like it!

**Dollander** · 6th July 18, 07:22 PM

As always, muchos danke schön.

While I've yet to throw in my two cents on it, I've been following that "Personal Flair" thread, and there's that tiny part of me that's paranoid about going too far in my "respecting tradition without being bound by it" philosphy. So I'm relieved to see that's not the case, at least among those who took the time to reply (or at least say "Aye") to my post.

Originally Posted by kingandrew

Is that an asot you're wearing about the neck?

Actually, it's a mock ascot...or mock day cravat? I've seen numerous, contradictory explanations as to the difference and which is which. But either way, not only is 13oz wool too heavy (and itchy

) for a real day cravat, but I didn't have enough fabric left to make one. So a poly-lined tartan neckband with a single, permanently-creased blade that wraps around it will have to do.

Originally Posted by Mike S

What tartan is that? I like it!

It's Murray of Tullibardine in House of Edgar's muted palette. I like how it's a unique sett that's busy without being loud, not to mention that I've always felt darker reds are a good match for my Mediterranean complexion. Plus, reading Figheadair's articles about its pre-Culloden origins cinched it as the choice for my "dress" kilt over the more common Murray of Atholl. And in case you didn't already figure it out, Murray is indeed my surname...and the reason my father's family has maintained a Scottish identity no matter how many PA Dutch women they married over the generations since crossing the Atlantic.

Oh, and here are the links to said articles if you wish to read them:
https://www.scottishtartans.co.uk/Ea...ine_tartan.pdf
https://www.scottishtartans.co.uk/Mu...eappraisal.pdf

**Mike S** · 6th July 18, 07:53 PM

Many thanks for the tartan ID. The Murrays were quite literally brothers to the Sutherlands, so I can rationalize myself right into acquiring a kilt in that tartan on my bucket list as well.

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**The TALL TN Scot** · 9th July 18, 10:56 AM

Very good looking waistcoat, I hope to get one soon. Congratulations on a very nice looking ensemble!

**Jumpmonkey** · 9th July 18, 11:56 AM

Looks great, a proper waistcoat and jacket are next on my list, to complete my winter kilting preparations. You don't make the wait any easier, wearing it so well.

If you don't mind me prying, I've been torn on lapels vs. no lapels. Why did you decide to go with the lapels on the vest. No criticism here, I think it looks absolutely solid. I'm just curious about how you made your decision.

**The TALL TN Scot** · 9th July 18, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jumpmonkey

If you don't mind me prying, I've been torn on lapels vs. no lapels. Why did you decide to go with the lapels on the vest.

I'm torn as well, but am leaning more toward getting the lapels so that it can be a semi dressy look in and of itself it it's too warm for a jacket.

**Dollander** · 9th July 18, 10:27 PM

Again, thank you.

Originally Posted by Jumpmonkey

If you don't mind me prying, I've been torn on lapels vs. no lapels. Why did you decide to go with the lapels on the vest. No criticism here, I think it looks absolutely solid. I'm just curious about how you made your decision.

Originally Posted by The TALL TN Scot

I'm torn as well, but am leaning more toward getting the lapels so that it can be a semi dressy look in and of itself it it's too warm for a jacket.

Yeah, a semi-dressy look when it's too warm for a jacket is precisely what I was going for. That's why I chose not only the lapels but the full tweed back as well, and why I ordered it from USA Kilts as they seem to be the only retailer who offers the full variety of options that Gaelic Themes is capable of...well, that and my proximity to the shop so I could compare the swatches with my own eyes, and that they're in general just pretty cool people whose business is worth supporting.

**Jock Scot** · 10th July 18, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by The TALL TN Scot

I'm torn as well, but am leaning more toward getting the lapels so that it can be a semi dressy look in and of itself it it's too warm for a jacket.

Without, I hope, venturing too far into rule 11 territory, if you are going to shoot shotguns whilst wearing a waistcoat, as some kilt wearing Scots do, then the Scottish tailor will make your waistcoat without lapels. Why? The lapels impede the precise and consistant smooth mounting of the gun to the shoulder. For those that do not have these requirements then the choice is there for all to make.