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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickHughes123 View Post
    As a Scotsman, and patriotic one, I don't often feel there is anyone else in the country that is the same. Is there any other patriotic Scots out there? Or Scotch-Americans/Scotch-Canadians!?

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    Many Scots that I know could easily find that question insulting.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Many Scots that I know could easily find that question insulting.
    How so Jock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickHughes123 View Post
    How so Jock?
    Just by asking that question, highlights your ignorance.
    Last edited by Jock Scot; 6th August 18 at 10:45 AM.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    I am a little confused by the initial question. Is this asking about

    A) Scots who are patriotic towards Scotland ?
    B) Americans of Scottish decent patriotic towards the United States ?
    C) Americans of Scottish decent patriotic towards Scotland ?

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    There is an old saying that is perhaps apropos here.

    From your post - "I don't often feel there is anyone else in the country that is the same."

    The saying is -

    "If you ever find yourself standing alone with your beliefs, you probably took a wrong turn somewhere."
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    Why the hell is everyone piling on Patrick? All he is saying is that he is proud of his Scottish heritage and is patriotic about his nation and nationality.

    We are seeing a lot of arbitrary anti this-and-that all over the world. I fully understand his comments alluding to an all too common lack of pride and interest in history/heritage/nationalism among many these days.
    My Clans: Guthrie, Sinclair, Sutherland, MacRae, McCain-Maclachlan, MacGregor-Petrie, Johnstone, Hamilton, Boyd, MacDonald-Alexander, Patterson, Thompson. Welsh:Edwards, Williams, Jones. Paternal line: Brandenburg/Prussia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike S View Post
    Why the hell is everyone piling on Patrick? All he is saying is that he is proud of his Scottish heritage and is patriotic about his nation and nationality.

    We are seeing a lot of arbitrary anti this-and-that all over the world. I fully understand his comments alluding to an all too common lack of pride and interest in history/heritage/nationalism among many these days.
    It doesn't feel like a piling on so much as the asking for greater understanding of what is meant. Patriotism is in many ways an ephemeral idea that is hard to pin down. For some military service is proof of patriotism and while those who don't follow lock-step with the government should "love it or leave". While people involved in social movements may see themselves as patriotic for wanting to make their country better. My father and father-in-law can argue over whether kneeling for the national anthem is patriotic and if it respects/disrespects their military service. Both the Alt-Right and Antifa here in the US view themselves as patriotic; the issue is that both judge patriotism by their standards. So who is to judge what is patriotic? Probably Steve has the best quote on it to begin with and from there it's all personal and dangerous to pass judgement.

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