X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Results 1 to 10 of 66

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    18th July 07
    Location
    North East Scotland
    Posts
    1,027
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Not sure that peer-reviewed articles end the debate about Q- versus P-.
    Dr. Ewan Campbell suggested that Q-Celts were in Scotland prior to any Irish in-migration and that some Picts may have spoken Q-Celtic
    https://www.electricscotland.com/his...scotsirish.htm
    (originally published in Antiquity 75)
    Bridget Brennan, on the other hand, disputes his analysis
    http://www.academia.edu/7174193/A_cr...e_Scots_Irish_

    Alan

  2. The Following User Says 'Aye' to neloon For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Join Date
    7th February 11
    Location
    London, Canada
    Posts
    9,570
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by neloon View Post
    Not sure that peer-reviewed articles end the debate about Q- versus P-.
    Dr. Ewan Campbell suggested that Q-Celts were in Scotland prior to any Irish in-migration and that some Picts may have spoken Q-Celtic
    https://www.electricscotland.com/his...scotsirish.htm
    (originally published in Antiquity 75)
    Bridget Brennan, on the other hand, disputes his analysis
    http://www.academia.edu/7174193/A_cr...e_Scots_Irish_

    Alan
    Oh, it doesn’t end the debate, it just raises it considerably.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.

  4. #3
    Join Date
    24th January 17
    Location
    Ellan Vannin
    Posts
    318
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by neloon View Post
    Not sure that peer-reviewed articles end the debate about Q- versus P-.
    Dr. Ewan Campbell suggested that Q-Celts were in Scotland prior to any Irish in-migration and that some Picts may have spoken Q-Celtic
    https://www.electricscotland.com/his...scotsirish.htm
    (originally published in Antiquity 75)
    Bridget Brennan, on the other hand, disputes his analysis
    http://www.academia.edu/7174193/A_cr...e_Scots_Irish_

    Alan
    Further to this I was watching a documentry on Roman Britain & another hypothesis for the appearance of Gaelic in Galloway was that mercenaries could have been employed from Ireland either towards the end of the Roman period or after the end of the Roman occupation in a similar way to the Saxons. So possibly another source for the appearance of Gaelic in Lowland areas - payment would have most likely in land and therefore this could have lead to the introduction of Gaelic placenames even though the language of the majority of Scotland at that point would definitely have been a Brythonnic possibly with element of Latin influences remaining.

  5. #4
    Join Date
    10th January 15
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    115
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Thomson View Post
    Further to this I was watching a documentry on Roman Britain & another hypothesis for the appearance of Gaelic in Galloway was that mercenaries could have been employed from Ireland either towards the end of the Roman period or after the end of the Roman occupation in a similar way to the Saxons.
    That would be very convenient if true as it might solve the mystery of who the Attecotti were. The name possibly derives from Aithechthuatha, which referred to vassal people in Ireland. Attecotti units did exist in the Roman army.

    That only accounts for the first Irish settlers, obviously they kept coming over the centuries including the Norse Gaels. The Irish colonised much of the western seaboard of Britain during this time though only the ones in what became Scotland were successful.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    18th October 09
    Location
    Orange County California
    Posts
    11,275
    Mentioned
    18 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by neloon View Post
    Not sure that peer-reviewed articles end the debate about Q- versus P-.
    Yes no matter what the topic, once you delve into the published articles of intrenched professors in the field you find the same thing: at least two camps which derive opposite conclusions from the same material, each camp lead by one or more academics, each professor supported by a number of grad student sycophants, the two camps often indulging in childish mudslinging at each other within the pages of these respectable academic journals.

    The level of debate often gets lower rather than higher as you ascend the ladder.
    Last edited by OC Richard; 1st December 18 at 06:22 AM.
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0