Angus County

[byrdfeeder]

Thank you for your input about a tartan for the Orems. When I searched commercial sites for a tartan, they suggested (as Karl said) Aberdeen because of the number of Orems there. Frankly, I didn't know there was an Angus tartan. I viewed it, and yes, it is a lovely one. Given that my Orems were from Angus, I agree it is a good choice.

I was aware that Angus had also been referred to as Forfarshire, but since my Orems left Scotland sometime in the 1600s, I presume the county would have been Angus at that time, no?

I just read a selection about the origin of kilts: "The Invention of Tradition" by Hugh Trevor-Roper (Columbia University). Wondering if anyone else has seen this and what your thoughts are about it. Are these fightin' words?

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/journali...0Tradition.pdf

[Tarheel]

I just read a selection about the origin of kilts: "The Invention of Tradition" by Hugh Trevor-Roper (Columbia University). Wondering if anyone else has seen this and what your thoughts are about it. Are these fightin' words?

I just scanned the text in the link you posted. I can't say those are "fightin' words", but they could start a debate among those with more historical knowledge on the subject than I have. I prefer to let that sleeping giant rest in peace.

PS. I do appreciate information from any source so that I may develop a conclusion closer to the truth.

[byrdfeeder]

I prefer to let that sleeping giant rest in peace.

PS. I do appreciate information from any source so that I may develop a conclusion closer to the truth.

I hope that through my ignorance I didn't put my foot in it. I did not mean to offend.

[cessna152towser]

Parts of Angus, such as Forfar and Monikie, might well be considered as being in the Lowlands, but I've always thought of the Angus Glens, Glen Clova, Glen Isla, Glen Prosen etc as within the Highlands, indeed Glen Doll is within the Cairngorms National Park.

[byrdfeeder]

Parts of Angus, such as Forfar and Monikie, might well be considered as being in the Lowlands, but I've always thought of the Angus Glens, Glen Clova, Glen Isla, Glen Prosen etc as within the Highlands, indeed Glen Doll is within the Cairngorms National Park.

Okay, that helps clear that up. Since Monikie was so close to the Highlands, would they have shared similar cultures? For example, I've read that people in the Lowlands were predominantly Presbyterian throughout the 17th and 18th centuries, and would have disagreed rather vehemently with those who supported Prince Charles. Would you agree, or is this off the mark?

[Tarheel]

I hope that through my ignorance I didn't put my foot in it. I did not mean to offend.

Fear not my friend. I make many errors and am treated kindly by this group with corrections that help my personal growth. This is why I remain loyal and wiser.

[byrdfeeder]

Fear not my friend. I make many errors and am treated kindly by this group with corrections that help my personal growth. This is why I remain loyal and wiser.

Thank you for your patience. I get a little "over exuberant" in my quest for info sometimes, but I totally agree that any source is worth reading--what matters is understanding the context.

[Karl R]

I was aware that Angus had also been referred to as Forfarshire, but since my Orems left Scotland sometime in the 1600s, I presume the county would have been Angus at that time, no?

It was called Angus Shire before it was called Forfarshire. I found a reference that the area was called Angus Shire in 1773, but I can't tell you what it was called in the 1600s.

[Hirsty]

Angus was a Mormeardom since at least the 900s BCE.

[byrdfeeder]

It was called Angus Shire before it was called Forfarshire. I found a reference that the area was called Angus Shire in 1773, but I can't tell you what it was called in the 1600s.

This information sent me down several new paths in my research. Amazing what you find when you change the search string from "Angus County" to "Angus Shire!" Thank you so much!