Pre-amalgamation Regimental kilts.

[blackwatch70]

There is a discussion over on another forum which went south over the definition over terms.

So for this thread I will use the terms for the ways to fold fabric into pleats as given here. -



This is from page 7 of the box pleat supplement to TAoK.

OK, to the question. For those with actual first hand knowledge of pre-amalgamation military issue kilts.

From my understanding the Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Other Ranks kilts were made from the Govt Sett #1 pleated in the Military Box Pleat style with the pleats to Stripe - the Black line within the Green band centered in each pleat.






And that the Black Watch (Royal Highland Regt.) Other Ranks kilts were made from Govt Set #1 pleated in the knife pleat style with the pleats to stripe - the center between the four black stipes in every other Blue band.

What some call "Knife pleat to the nothing"







Can anyone with knowledge of pre-amalgamation kilts confirm, deny, or correct this please.

I would rather not get into a discussion of the differences between Other Ranks kilts and Officers kilts.

And not about what fabric they were made of or any of the other topics we have covered ad-nauseum.

As far as I remember, both regiments pleated to the stripe, but the A&S kilts are box pleated and show more green in the back (to the black stripe on the green), while the BW knife pleated (until 1952 - barrel pleated) to show more blue in the back (alternating single black line and the double black lines on the blue).

In 1936 and up to 2006 , the standard pleatings for military kilts were: the Black Watch - 29 barrel then knife pleats, A&SH - 27-29 box pleats.

The RRS kilts are from Goverment #1A tartan (the lighter shade of Govt #1 ) as have been worn by A&SH officers (they called it "Sutherland").