Pre-amalgamation Regimental kilts.

[Arnot]

As far as I remember, both regiments pleated to the stripe, but the A&S kilts are box pleated and show more green in the back (to the black stripe on the green), while the BW knife pleated (until 1952 - barrel pleated) to show more blue in the back (alternating single black line and the double black lines on the blue

Actually, the Black Watch pleats are alternating between the pair of black lines and the blue section between the two pairs of black lines. I know this because I had to duplicate an original Black Watch regimental kilt while making kilts for the local pipe band. It can be seen in the photos as well.

[blackwatch70]

Actually, the Black Watch pleats are alternating between the pair of black lines and the blue section between the two pairs of black lines.

You are absolutely correct.
Thanks.

[OC Richard]

As we know only five regiments retained their kilts after the 1809 de-kilting decision (the 42nd, 78th, 79th, 92nd, and 93rd) and only the 42nd and 92nd wore knife-pleated kilts.

Had the 1809 de-kilting had never happened there would have been twice as many kilted regiments in the 1809-1881 period. I wonder what their pleating would have been. I know that in the 1809-1881 period the 72nd, 74th, and 91st had pipers but I've not seen a list of the pipers' kilts' pleating for those regiments. I can't recall seeing images of pipers of the 71st, 73rd, or 75th in the 1809-1881 period.

That was the first round of amalgamations of course, in 1881, when regiments were paired off.

Then another round in the post-WWII era.

[blackwatch70]

I can't recall seeing images of pipers of the 71st, 73rd, or 75th in the 1809-1881 period.


Then another round in the post-WWII era.

71st Regiment of Foot didn't lose Highland status and definitely kept their pipers after 1809. 73rd and 75th officially lost the Highland status and pipers.

[blackwatch70]

71st Regiment of Foot didn't lose Highland status and definitely kept their pipers after 1809. 73rd and 75th officially lost the Highland status and pipers.

found the article about 71st HLI pipers of 1830s in The Dispatch Journal.

[Ninehostages]

No Broad Arrow on the labels? ...

The NATO number must puzzle the hay out of the Belgians.

[Steve Ashton]

My question was very specific. About the pleating of the pre RRS kilts.

As this thread has veered quite a bit off the original topic and my question is still unanswered I am closing this thread.