Fishtail back on kilt with button braces?

[Kriegbert]

A proper fitting kilt would no doubt come up to the same level as the top of the fish tail, so I would think there would be no advantage. I thought the fishtails and suspenders on trews was so they didn't slip below the jacket or tunic when riding or sitting, was it not.

No, that's not the benefit as jackets are too long for that problem to occur and shirts also used to be crotch length (before the advent of separate undergarments) for that to be an issue. the advantage of a fishtail is in comfort regarding that pressure of the waistband is distributed along the natural contour of the small of the back.

[Shinenotburn]

No, that's not the benefit as jackets are too long for that problem to occur and shirts also used to be crotch length (before the advent of separate undergarments) for that to be an issue. the advantage of a fishtail is in comfort regarding that pressure of the waistband is distributed along the natural contour of the small of the back.

As it is in a proper fitting kilt.

[Kriegbert]

As it is in a proper fitting kilt.

No, you seem to misapprehend the point. Regardless of proper fit, the two styles are different mechanisms of wear. Braces work against gravity by hanging weight from the shoulders. A waistband kilt (or trousers) use lateral force for security. The point being: when suspended from the shoulders, fishtails provide a benefit (indeed, a fishtail without braces would be utterly pointless.

[Shinenotburn]

No, you seem to misapprehend the point. Regardless of proper fit, the two styles are different mechanisms of wear. Braces work against gravity by hanging weight from the shoulders. A waistband kilt (or trousers) use lateral force for security. The point being: when suspended from the shoulders, fishtails provide a benefit (indeed, a fishtail without braces would be utterly pointless.

I do see your point. I suppose the distribution of weight would be extended evenly along the base of the fishtail, more so than being distributed across four buttons on the inside back of one kilt.

Kind of like overalls minus the flap in the front.

[Kriegbert]

I do see your point. I suppose the distribution of weight would be extended evenly along the base of the fishtail, more so than being distributed across four buttons on the inside back of one kilt.

Kind of like overalls minus the flap in the front.

The biggest two advantages with braces seem to be: since they hang from the shoulder, the waistband can be loose, which is particularly useful if you have a large meal, and secondly, always reverts to the original position regardless of whatever acrobatics you pull off.

[Crazy Dave]

The biggest two advantages with braces seem to be: since they hang from the shoulder, the waistband can be loose, which is particularly useful if you have a large meal, and secondly, always reverts to the original position regardless of whatever acrobatics you pull off.

I like to wear braces with my suits. I agree! I'm in sales and when I do outside sales, I like to be able to sit with my customers comfortably. The discussions can often get long and drawn out. Also, when I stand up, I want to look neat and together. Braces are the best way to facilitate this.

Dave