Dr Who knows kilts rule

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It was something of a throw away post, so I am not trying to change your mind, Shaun, but with which part do you disagree?
That he hosted the 2024 BAFTA?
That he often wears a kilt (often too casually for my taste)?
That "Dr Who (which of course he played twice) knows that kilts rule?
Or are you pointing out that I appear to have downloaded the wrong photo and this is not at the BAFTA awards?
I'm just curious.

[ShaunMaxwell]

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It was something of a throw away post, so I am not trying to change your mind, Shaun, but with which part do you disagree?

I was disagreeing that he knows “kilt rules.” To me, he looks like he just stepped out of the kilt hire shop (white hose, ghillie brogues, extremely low hanging sporran, belt/waistplate with a waistcoat…).

Probably not things a seasoned kilt wearer would do, but to each his own.

Cheers,

SM

[Touchstone]

I was disagreeing that he knows “kilt rules.” To me, he looks like he just stepped out of the kilt hire shop (white hose, ghillie brogues, extremely low hanging sporran, belt/waistplate with a waistcoat…).

Probably not things a seasoned kilt wearer would do, but to each his own.

Cheers,

SM

I think the original poster was saying Tennant knows that "kilts rule" (that is, "kilts are awesome"), not that he knows "kilt rules".

[ShaunMaxwell]

I think the original poster was saying Tennant knows that "kilts rule" (that is, "kilts are awesome"), not that he knows "kilt rules".

Glad he knows that! I misread the headline to the post!

Cheers,

SM

[John_Carrick]

The new Dr Who, Ncuti Gatwa, sported a kilt in his first episode at Christmas; he is the fourth Scot to take on the role.

David T had a very show biz jewelled jacket with a black or dark kilt at the BAFTAs last week. He can get away with these sorts of things.

[Hirsty]

The new Dr Who, Ncuti Gatwa, sported a kilt in his first episode at Christmas; he is the fourth Scot to take on the role.

He went to school in my home town.

[Steve Ashton]

It's really a shame that more Scots don't wear the kilt more often.

If you wear the kilt enough it becomes just another piece of clothing in your wardrobe.



You learn that a kilt is not "The complete outfit" often advertised by the rental/hire companies like it is some sort of uniform. It can be dressed up or down to suit the occasion.

If attending a dinner or event where the invitation specifies "Black Tie with full ribbons and medals" -



Or going about your daily business.





Kilt or no kilt you should dress appropriately to the event you are attending.



Yes, you can dress like you have "A License to Kilt"



Or dress appropriate for the weather.



And you can have fun in a kilt.



The outfit in the original post just screams "Rental Outfit" worn by someone who hires a kilt only for special events.

The Prince Charlie Coatee is the kilt equivalent of evening wear Civilian Tuxedo. For day wear an Argyle would suit the event much better. A bow tie can be worn with an Argyle if a more formal look is desired.
Wearing a kilt belt with a PC leaves a bright chrome triangle between the points of the vest. (Those points are a modern invention to emulate British Royalty that was too fat to fully button the vest. Prior to the mass produced standardization of the PC a formal vest would have been straight across the bottom.)
This is a kilt designed and made to be worn up at the anatomical waist. Wearing this style of kilt where trousers are worn drops the bottom below the top of the knee cap and causes large shower curtain fold in the pleats.
The sporran is not a crotch protector. It must be painful to walk or run with a sporran that low.
Even the rental companies today are getting away from the snow white hose look
And Ghillie Brogues are not Roman sandals. The laces are not tied up the leg. In fact, Ghillies are also a modern invention of the mass produced "standardized" outfits of rental or hire companies.

Just because you are an actor who gets a big time gig that pays millions does not mean you can't look like you are comfortable enough in a kilt to look - well - comfortable.

[OC Richard]

The new Dr Who, Ncuti Gatwa, sported a kilt in his first episode at Christmas; he is the fourth Scot to take on the role.

I didn't know he was Scottish!

I saw him on Graham Norton and I couldn't make out his accent.

Tennant put on an English accent for the role. Have the other Scots done?

[Tomo]

In danger of coming off as a Doctor Who fan - I'm not - but apparently Tennant was asked not to use his natural accent as his predecessor in the role, Christopher Eccleston, had played the part with his strong Lancashire accent. Most of the earlier actors had spoken with Received Pronunciation - even Sylvester McCoy although you can hear a mild Scottish accent in the way he rolls his Rs - Peter Capaldi was the third Scot to take on the role, and the first to do so with a Scottish accent (barring an episode when Tennant visited Balmoral)...

[Troglodyte]

I didn't know he was Scottish!

I saw him on Graham Norton and I couldn't make out his accent.

Tennant put on an English accent for the role. Have the other Scots done?

The accent question is an interesting one.

There is no difference beween English and Scots when they write the language, but they are distincitve when they speak, of course.

When it comes to accents, I can think of at least eight English accents that are quite disinct from each other, and cannot be mistaken, and there is probably a similar number in Scotland, too. Outside Scotland, the Glasgow or Edinburgh speach is probably most commonly thought of as 'Scottish' but they are quite distinct from each other, and you may hear an accent that is taken to be English - until they go south of the border, and then they can't be so easily placed.

Accents have become the battle-ground for the class war in recent times, and even the likes of Prime Ministers have lowered their speach style a notch or two to be socially more acceptable - both Tony Blair and David Cameron are examples.

Formally-trained actors sometimes acquire a distinct RADA, or stage-school style that is close to received pronunciation, or what used to be called 'BBC English' that is meant to be accentless and with 'correct' intonation, pronunciation, etc. And Scots actors' accents frequently become less distinct as a consequence.

The traditional indistrial region of the of Scotland's central belt that links Glasgow with Edinburgh, is where you might find the strongest 'Scottish' accents. But go further north and the accent becomes softer and gentle, and much more like what is heard in parts of England - so much so that Samuel Johnson commented on it when making his tour of the Highlands in the 1770s, so it's not a new thing.

Being the national broardcaster, the BBC has always had a 'thing' about regional accents, and have done many programmes on them - they did one of the difference between Glasgow and Edinburgh which featured Billy Connolly and you can see it on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0hS1NcH6R8). Andy Stewart's The Rumour is an amusing look at how the Scottish accent can change dramatically in just 20 miles or so.

I imagine that their natural accent for some actors is a bit like the old pair of slippers they keep at home. When working away, they are kind of in costume and playing a role, but, when they get home again, their old accent is waiting for them alongside their old slippers, and they slide back into both for comfort and ease. I've known Scots working in England do exactly this. And English, too.

Whether Scots actors choose to, or are directed to, tone-down their accent, I can only guess...