Hats

[Troglodyte]

Thats great! However, be aware there is another style that looks similar, but with flaps on. Often called a "Sherlock Holmes", I and others would call it a "Deer Stalker". You need to be aware of this, as the THREE names are often ,rather confusingly, mixed up depending on who is selling them. Both styles are good and the flaps do have their practical uses in wet and windy conditions found out on the hill, river, or loch, although perhaps they look a tad theatrical. Both styles are a common sight in the more rural areas and particularly amongst those that partake in country sports.

BE WARNED!

Make certain sure that you are buying the bonnet that you think you are buying! It is very, VERY easy to end up talking at cross purposes with the vendor. Pitfalls are present to trip up the unwary. Genuine and honest mistakes are lurking, due to this shambles of labelling.

The flapped sort I have always known as a deer-stalker (although Sherlock Holmes only ever wore a '...flapped travelling-cap...' according to Dr Watson), and the fore-and-aft as just that, or as a ghillie-cap - which is what I generally call it. The great thing about the style is that they can be folded flat, peak-to-peak, and stuffed in a bag or pocket very conveniently.

My father used to refer to his tweed bucket-hat as a 'Paddy-hat' for reasons he never explained to me.

The trouble is there is no set name for any of the hat styles, although generic terms like 'county cap' are usually unterstood by everyone to mean a tweed flat-cap.

You're dead right, Jock, urging caution when buying hats online - as each retailer has their own set of terminology. The eight-section cap is a good example, being known variously as a 'newsboy', 'bakerboy', 'Gatsby' and I have even heard it called a 'pudding'.

What I object to is the insistence by the wearer to curl the peak (you now see it done on classic flat-caps) into some sort of arch, and have it pulled down over their eyes. This tells me what the wearer has been watching on telly, and thinks gives them an authentic 'countryman' appearance, but it seems to be a baseball-cap thing that is done with the tweed baseball-caps retailers.

You can always spot a 'fashion tweed' sportsman in his choice of tweeds and style of wearing. You occasionally see an old boy with his cap shaped by years of use, pulled tight on his his head, and curiously off centre and to one side. I wonder how many seasons the fashion tweeds last...

[Jock Scot]

The flapped sort I have always known as a deer-stalker (although Sherlock Holmes only ever wore a '...flapped travelling-cap...' according to Dr Watson), and the fore-and-aft as just that, or as a ghillie-cap - which is what I generally call it. The great thing about the style is that they can be folded flat, peak-to-peak, and stuffed in a bag or pocket very conveniently.

My father used to refer to his tweed bucket-hat as a 'Paddy-hat' for reasons he never explained to me.

The trouble is there is no set name for any of the hat styles, although generic terms like 'county cap' are usually unterstood by everyone to mean a tweed flat-cap.

You're dead right, Jock, urging caution when buying hats online - as each retailer has their own set of terminology. The eight-section cap is a good example, being known variously as a 'newsboy', 'bakerboy', 'Gatsby' and I have even heard it called a 'pudding'.

What I object to is the insistence by the wearer to curl the peak (you now see it done on classic flat-caps) into some sort of arch, and have it pulled down over their eyes. This tells me what the wearer has been watching on telly, and thinks gives them an authentic 'countryman' appearance, but it seems to be a baseball-cap thing that is done with the tweed baseball-caps retailers.

You can always spot a 'fashion tweed' sportsman in his choice of tweeds and style of wearing. You occasionally see an old boy with his cap shaped by years of use, pulled tight on his his head, and curiously off centre and to one side. I wonder how many seasons the fashion tweeds last...

We are fellow thinkers here and particularly on that dreadful modern idea of "curving" the cap brim. "Paddy Hat"!My father also used that description for those "bucket" hats! It sounds like it might have been a generational thing?

[MacKenzie]

The trouble is there is no set name for any of the hat styles...

Indeed. Search "fore and aft hat" and you get a lot of this.

[jsrnephdoc]

Indeed. Search "fore and aft hat" and you get a lot of this.

It's obvious it's an apt descriptor, but I can't imagine ever seeing "a lot" of it

[Jock Scot]

Indeed. Search "fore and aft hat" and you get a lot of this.

:lol
I think that most people who have logged onto a kilt website would have a fair idea that the bonnet you have illustrated above would probably have a fair chance that that pattern was not the one that was being talked about!