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    Of course bespoke sporrans could always have been made at any time, and it's always possible a small boutique maker could have made anything at any time.

    But as far as what can be documented, what is seen is that Day sporrans were brown up until around 1980.

    It coincides with the rise of Kilt Hire adopting the black Prince Charlie + black Ghillies costume, and Pipe Bands adopting the black Argyll + black Ghillies + black Glengarry costume.

    BTW in the military it started becoming the fashion in the 1960s (as best I can tell) for the soldiers to turn their brown-issued sporrans black. The MOD relented and started issuing hideous black Courlene sporrans at some point.

    I have a collection of catalogues going from around 1906 up through around 1980 and black sporrans aren't pictured or mentioned.

    Well "around 1980". The earliest evidence I have of black sporrans being sold is a 1978 catalogue that lists 14 sporran styles in brown and 2 in black, a snapshot of the beginning of the Kilt Hire black sporran thing.

    A 1983 catalogue lists 12 Day styles, all brown, with a footnote saying that a few of them are available in black for extra cost.

    This 1983 catalogue also is the first evidence I've seen of what we call "semi-dress" sporrans. They call them "Day/Evening Wear" and offer four styles. It's another snapshot of how Kilt Hire was about to change the face of Highland Dress.

    As far as imagery is concerned I haven't seen a photo that conclusively shows a black sporran prior to the rise of Kilt Hire. Thing is, an extremely dark brown had long been a popular colour. I've repeatedly seen these sold on Ebay being described as black by the seller, though in the photos it's clear that they're dark brown.

    People have also pointed to an old photo or two saying they show a black sporran, though from such photos it's impossible to know.

    Like any historian I say "show me the evidence" (unambiguous dated photo, dated catalogue mentioning sporran colour, dated bill of sale mentioning sporran colour, etc.)

    Even if one or two documented black sporrans are presented it doesn't change the fact that 99% (if not more) were brown. This very thread includes mention of a brown sporran being turned black by the owner, something else to consider. A friend of mine did the same thing with a lovely ginger Hunting sporran I sold him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    This very thread includes mention of a brown sporran being turned black by the owner, something else to consider. .
    Guilty. But not feeling too guilty.

    And you have first person written documentation up above.
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    I now own a dress sporran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geomick View Post
    I now own a dress sporran.

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    That's a beauty. Is that bovine fur?

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    black springbok from Afro-Celtic

    https://afrocelticsporrans.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by geomick View Post
    black springbok from Afro-Celtic

    https://afrocelticsporrans.com/
    Springbok! I don't feel bad for guessing wrong 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    Of course bespoke sporrans could always have been made at any time, and it's always possible a small boutique maker could have made anything at any time.

    But as far as what can be documented, what is seen is that Day sporrans were brown up until around 1980.

    It coincides with the rise of Kilt Hire adopting the black Prince Charlie + black Ghillies costume, and Pipe Bands adopting the black Argyll + black Ghillies + black Glengarry costume.

    BTW in the military it started becoming the fashion in the 1960s (as best I can tell) for the soldiers to turn their brown-issued sporrans black. The MOD relented and started issuing hideous black Courlene sporrans at some point.

    I have a collection of catalogues going from around 1906 up through around 1980 and black sporrans aren't pictured or mentioned.

    Well "around 1980". The earliest evidence I have of black sporrans being sold is a 1978 catalogue that lists 14 sporran styles in brown and 2 in black, a snapshot of the beginning of the Kilt Hire black sporran thing.

    A 1983 catalogue lists 12 Day styles, all brown, with a footnote saying that a few of them are available in black for extra cost.

    This 1983 catalogue also is the first evidence I've seen of what we call "semi-dress" sporrans. They call them "Day/Evening Wear" and offer four styles. It's another snapshot of how Kilt Hire was about to change the face of Highland Dress.

    As far as imagery is concerned I haven't seen a photo that conclusively shows a black sporran prior to the rise of Kilt Hire. Thing is, an extremely dark brown had long been a popular colour. I've repeatedly seen these sold on Ebay being described as black by the seller, though in the photos it's clear that they're dark brown.

    People have also pointed to an old photo or two saying they show a black sporran, though from such photos it's impossible to know.

    Like any historian I say "show me the evidence" (unambiguous dated photo, dated catalogue mentioning sporran colour, dated bill of sale mentioning sporran colour, etc.)

    Even if one or two documented black sporrans are presented it doesn't change the fact that 99% (if not more) were brown. This very thread includes mention of a brown sporran being turned black by the owner, something else to consider. A friend of mine did the same thing with a lovely ginger Hunting sporran I sold him.
    I agree completely.

    Which is why the black Scotch-grain Forsyths sporran is puzzling. I acquired it some years ago as part of a house-clearance in Cornwall, England, and all I could learn was that the original own had 'Scottish connections.'

    Could it be that he commissioned the thing in black right at the start?

    It showed no signs of use at all, so perhaps the owner had it specially made to seem a wee bit smarter than ordinary brown, for his wedding, perhaps, and never wore it again.

    I guess we'll never know for sure, but it's one of the exceptions that prove the rule.

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    Recent eBay purchases, I have a WE Scott black/bovine fur day sporran and an L&M Outfitters Hunting sporran on the way. (both were linked here)

    That will give me better examples to study to understand the construction. The brown leather day sporran (bought from Museum Replicas/Atlanta Cutlery) is probably not a good example to follow for construction advice. From a couple of videos and the sporrans I do have, it looks like the gusset is wrapped around the front face. Some even look like it was stitched to the edge and then turned to hide the seam. I need to understand typical construction methods before I start cutting the leather. Based on the comments on the history of day sporran leather color (any shade you want as long as it is brown), I plan to make a pair of similar sporrans - brown leather with tassels and black leather with a carved front face. Both will get the same thistle design for the top flap and a pin closure. I'll post pictures when they are built. Then I will work on a dress sporran in black stingray belly.

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    Most certainly many shades of brown are the usual colour for a sporran, particularly if you want to go down the fur route and yes, there are many exceptions. These days, certainly in Scotland, animal hair is not as popular as it once was. Conservation issues and personal tastes have changed somewhat around the world and personally, as a hunting , shooting , fishing man, I really don't see the need for NEW fur sporrans these days. Each to their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    ... as a hunting , shooting , fishing man, I really don't see the need for NEW fur sporrans these days. ...
    Out of curiosity, what does being a hunting/shooting/fishing man have to do with the need for new fur sporrans? Are you referring to the lack of need for formal sporrans during informal activities, or something else?

    Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I think you're keen to keep Scottish traditions alive, and to prevent time from eroding and evolving them. If fur sporran production is halted and then resumed some years later, I imagine there would be consequences in those regards.

    I confess, I haven't researched the need for conservation in fur production. But I imagine sporrans don't put a large strain on the system. They're quite small, and worn by only a few. Additionally, some furs as so inexpensive, it seems they may be bordering on being considered a waste product. I know that in Japan they have a deer problem, and culled deer are being discarded, wasting both meat and hide.

    Viewing this from a wide perspective, it seems to me that using sustainable furs is the best course of action to keep tradition alive without inflicting damage on the world's ecosystem.

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