PV quality

[Dreadbelly]

In all fairness, I have noticed some "PV wear."

My gut pushes down on my belt, and my forward belt loops on my USAK Philabeg have worn down a bit. I haven't even owned it a year. It's my only complaint really. Everything else has held up fine.

[beerbecue]

I have used poly/wool from a certian Canadian mill/weaver so far to make my kilts...and I am pleased, especially for the price and service I have received.... (I have noticed a difference though in the two tartans - the H. Stewart is nice and opaque, while the gordon modern is more sheer)

How do you suppose a poly/wool blend would compare to PV? (I only had a stillwater standard in PV, and I didn't like the kilt all that much....)

Since I wear my kilt(s) so infrequently right now, I have no experience or opinion on the longevity of poly/wool.

And just for my own edification, is there a reason why poly/wool is not as common as PV??

[kilt by death]

What's this debate about?

I thought EVERYONE knew that PV is only good enough to make trews or girlie pants.

No?

[KiltedBishop]

You two stop fighting. You are traumatizing the children.

Stay together for the kids!

LOL

You know you can only get so heated with someone you REALLY care about.

[bear]

My, my. We do get personal don't we?

Wow. I wish that I could have gotten this attention when the solid, cotton-blend kilt that I had did a similar thing. Unfortunately, no response came from that kiltmaker. I'm quite sure that I was left with a paper-thin (and fading) kilt because I have alterior motives.

I know people that wouldn't buy a Toyota if it was virtually free. They hate the things and swear that they're unadultrated "cr_p". Car magazines and engineers consistantly berate the things. Yet, I chose to buy one on my own findings.

Critics and Reviewers told me not to go and see "Passion of the Christ"... yet I saw it.

The training in kiltmaking (that I will use to repair authentic kilts strictly for Pipe Bands and philanthropic organizations as a free service) has absolutely no bearing on the fact that the PV is thinning like George Costanzas head. Got a problem with that fact? Than ask Marton Mills why it's happening on an often-worn, Adult Men's kilt with the "Balmoral". I did.

Have a personal problem with me? Need to attack some more? Have fun. I have better things to do than take that kind of insult. If it was deserved, I would acknowledge it. There's no kiltmaker on the grassy knoll.

Nothing personal, Jimmy.
And there wasn't an insult in either of my posts.

But you contradict yourself all the time. For example, you want a 12oz wool kilt but the 12oz poly/viscose is too light for you?
(What weighs more, a ton of lead or a ton of feathers?)

Marton Mills makes the best quality poly/viscose I know of, anywhere. Poly/viscose is the best non-wool fabric for making tartan kilts.
Put those together and Marton Mills poly/viscose is the best non-wool fabric for making tartan kilts.

Then along you come, stating it doesn't last and you'll never buy another poly/viscose kilt. People listen to your words, Jimmy. When you say that, you could talk a ton of guys out of buying a poly/viscose kilt. That's a hit on every poly/viscose kiltmaker from one comment made by you.
Why would you make that comment? Since you're no longer in the poly/viscose kilt biz, there's nothing holding you back.
You've got a preference for wool. You've said that many times. It doesn't make poly/viscose the "stuff" you say it is.
If guys wore 12oz wool kilts the same way they wore their 12 oz poly/viscose kilts, they'd show similar wear. But the wool is left at home and the poly/viscose is worn for the rough stuff because wool is more expensive.
Can you imagine Andrew Breecher walking the Appalacian trail in a 4 yard wool kilt? Can you imagine the pleatless, shrunk up, twisted thing he'd have after the 2700 miles?
He still wears his poly/viscose kilt to semi-formal events!

There's always a lot of talk about getting less expensive, but high quality kilts made. Your comments damning poly/viscose will drive up prices because more guys will turn to wool for their tartans.
That's good in the short term for kiltmakers but bad for the kilt community.

[Jerry]

I hate seeing this drag on guys. I'm far from the expert that either of you two guys is, but I can tell you from the outside that it is like seeing your two oldest and best friends fighting. I have nothing but respect for both of you, and this is sad.

[Blu (Ontario)]

What's this debate about?

I thought EVERYONE knew that PV is only good enough to make trews or girlie pants.

No?

ROTFLMAO!

[Blu (Ontario)]

I hate seeing this drag on guys... it is like seeing your two oldest and best friends fighting. I have nothing but respect for both of you, and this is sad.

It's just a spirited exchange of thought between dynamic individuals. A lively, if only temporary, diversion from sporrans, pleat depth, and kilt pins.

[Graham]

I'll chip in, but only with what I've said before...

I love wool, it's quality gear, but PV provides a cheap, tough alternative for those who want to wear a kilt more than just "special occasions".

There is no way I would wear my $500 wool kilt to work every day.

Horses for courses, is an expression we use here. Both have their place in the world of kilts.

Personally, I love PV, I have one Bear kilt (my first custom made kilt, 2 years on and not showing ANY wear)plus four USAK PV kilts.

[Jerry]

I hate seeing this drag on guys... it is like seeing your two oldest and best friends fighting. I have nothing but respect for both of you, and this is sad.

It's just a spirited exchange of thought between dynamic individuals. A lively, if only temporary, diversion from sporrans, pleat depth, and kilt pins.

I sure hope you are right, Blu.