A question to stump the tartan experts.

**Dreadbelly** · 18th January 07, 05:42 PM

QUACK!

No... No fight is needed. This thread was intended for peaceful knowledge seeking purposes and it should stay that way.

I ask; if you chose to attack the current options presented, do you have an idea of your own to replace what is being offered? Do not contribute to the problem currently at hand, but please, offer a solution acceptable in your terms.

**Splash_4** · 18th January 07, 05:43 PM

No fight should ensue on this. I believe that any one doing research on the topic will find that most tartans were regional based upon a local weaver and not based upon any clan. The names given to the tartans were a much more modern addition.

I see no difference in the Capercaillie tartan mentioned earlier in this thread to the MacKinnon tartan I just ordered. Any symbolism is mine to add and not attached to a piece of cloth.

Just my $0.02. I suggest that Dreadbelly find a tartan he likes and wear it in honor of his relatives!

**Kid Cossack** · 18th January 07, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Beuth Sim

Dreadbelly, DUCK! I believe a fight is about to ensue...

I was about to say, I fear we veer.

**Warlock** · 18th January 07, 05:48 PM

I would love to wear something to Honour my beloved Marine Corps, however, I was not able to pass the physical. So I honour them by not wearing anything that might make someone think that I have served. If you chose one or another tartan to Honour your Gypsy ancestors, and it feels right to you, MORE POWER TO YA LADDIE-BUCK! Remember, it IS the thought that counts!

**Warlock** · 18th January 07, 05:51 PM

I must say that I have been drooling over the U.S.M.C. kilt. My that's beautiful!

**Dreadbelly** · 18th January 07, 05:58 PM

I am thinking that a kilt made in a specific solid colour might work as well. Not sure what that colour is. But the idea has crossed my mind.

**Splash_4** · 18th January 07, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

I am thinking that a kilt made in a specific solid colour might work as well. Not sure what that colour is. But the idea has crossed my mind.

Red Velvet, per chance?

**Dreadbelly** · 18th January 07, 06:13 PM

An indigo coloured kilt with this as the front apron.

Roma flag. Now there is a balls out sort of statement. I wonder how many people would see it and realise what it was?

**gilmore** · 18th January 07, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

QUACK!

No... No fight is needed. This thread was intended for peaceful knowledge seeking purposes and it should stay that way.

I ask; if you chose to attack the current options presented, do you have an idea of your own to replace what is being offered? Do not contribute to the problem currently at hand, but please, offer a solution acceptable in your terms.

Perhaps you missed my earlier post.

Why not research what the gypsies and travellers are fond of wearing now, or were in the past? They are a living, existing people with a long and rich culture in Scotland and the rest of the British Isles. It is not unlikely that at some point in history they had a distinctive dress.

Maybe you could call Scottish Gypsy Traveller Association at 0131 650 6314.

Or just google like I did and found a page full of links:http://www.gypsy-traveller.org/text/contacts_text.htm

Or you could see which, if any, tartans were used by famous Britons of gypsy descent---like Charlie Chaplin, Michael Caine, Bob Hoskins, John Roberts, Sir Henry Joseph Wood, Martin Taylor, David Essex, Albert Lee, Denny Laine, Jake Bowers, George Bramwell Evens, Raby Howell, Freddy Eastwood, Jem Mace, and Johnny Frankham. Of these, Martin Taylor appears to be the only Scottish born.

Or you might call or write these people:

VICTOR WEYBRIGHT ARCHIVES OF THE GYPSY LORE SOCIETY
The Victor Weybright Archives of the Gypsy Lore Society is a small but growing collection at present, specializing in scholarly materials. The collection houses dissertations and theses, books, journal and newspaper articles as well as unpublished papers and ephemera. Sixteen specialized periodicals are currently received by the archives. A computerized catalog with detailed descriptions and subject headings aids researchers in finding materials relevant to their projects.

The Weybright Archives are available for use by researchers by appointment:

Telephone and fax: (0700 to 2100 Washington, DC time only) 301-341-1261
E-mail: Sheila Salo, ssalo@Capaccess.org

Reference questions, especially to identify material in the archives suitable to supply the needed information, may be directed as above, or to:

Carmen Hendershott, Archivist
Telephones: (212) 229-5308 and (212) 229-5598

Victor Weybright (1903-1978) was a writer and publisher who played an important role in the founding of the Gypsy Lore Society, North American Chapter, which later became the Gypsy Lore Society.