thank you so much guys! sice this is first real kilt, i was hoping that i wouldnt screw it up somehow. ill try to gey some pics up sometime, because as you can guess, im rather happy to finally have one. like i said, i fight in it a lot, and am going to enjoy every minute of it. thank you. also, is it really ok to wear the extra fabric down or not? cause my comp has some prob accesing a lot of sites ( crappy comp, arghhhh) so if one of you could tell me if it is, then it would be appreciated. KMWaS