When were great kilts invented?

**neo71665** · 13th April 07, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Braveheart88

I'm a trekkie too, lol. Gonna miss Stargate

In fact I'm doubly pissed because with in the span of two years two shows I watch were cancelled by executives who were obviously on dope (Enterprise and SG1.) Enterprise was just starting to get good when they pulled the plug, and Stargate had just begun a new arc

Tell me about it, I was really liking Firefly and look what they did to it, at least we got a good movie outta it.

**Braveheart88** · 15th April 07, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by chasem

jordan's pretty much got it. The kilt began its rise in the late 16th century. I expect Matt will chime in with a brief synopsis. Then again, I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere.

D'oh, I just saw this comment. Then how come all the scots were wearing them in Braveheart, set in the 14th Century?

**Dreadbelly** · 15th April 07, 08:50 AM

Hollywould?

**Braveheart88** · 15th April 07, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

Hollywould?

He's also wearing something nearly identical here: http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/im...am-wallace.jpg

**drobin** · 15th April 07, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

Hollywould?

Yeah, something about making a movie for entertainment and money; not the History Channel.

I have not seen it in a while but does "Highlander" make the same mistakes?

Raptor · 15th April 07, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

Bah, you're just jealous cause my Schwartz is bigger than yours!

We've gone plaid!

Ah, a sensible answer....

**jordanjm** · 16th April 07, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Braveheart88

D'oh, I just saw this comment. Then how come all the scots were wearing them in Braveheart, set in the 14th Century?

Hollywood decided that the Kilt and Woad are what make people Scottish.

They pulled the kilt from the future, and Woad from the Picts of the distant past. EVEN if highlanders at the time were wearing kilts. (I Believe) William Wallace was a lowlander. Lowlanders did not start wearing kilts until the Act of Union, as a protest against being united with England.

**Braveheart88** · 16th April 07, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by jordanjm

Hollywood decided that the Kilt and Woad are what make people Scottish.

They pulled the kilt from the future, and Woad from the Picts of the distant past. EVEN if highlanders at the time were wearing kilts. (I Believe) William Wallace was a lowlander. Lowlanders did not start wearing kilts until the Act of Union, as a protest against being united with England.

What about the painting I linked too? Inspired by the movie? Just curious, don't want to seem confrontational

**macwilkin** · 16th April 07, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Braveheart88

What about the painting I linked too? Inspired by the movie? Just curious, don't want to seem confrontational

Or inspired by someone's overactive imagination!

Visit www.albanach.org or http://medievalscotland.org/.

T.

**MacWage** · 16th April 07, 08:29 AM

I'll respond in few ways:

1. The EARLIEST, UNCONTESTABLE, PROVEN reference to a belted plaid is in 1594. Any earlier is a matter of debate and highly and hotly debated.
2. IF you want to argue ealier, MANY, MANY WILL AGREE WITH YOU.

3. It was called "that ancient garment" by the late 1600s (I read it, but forgot source, so can't quote) and was highly believed to be very, very old by those in the 1700s and 1800s.
4. Many, today, follow and believe this line of arguement. Also, many want to believe this and part of me still does too.
(see number 2)

5. MANY don't care regardless.