Dooley Tartan?

[Bryan]

I am not sure I understand. Families are associated with a clan of living and desceased people, not tartan designs woven into pieces of cloth. Clan is from the Gaelic for "children" and the members were all said to be descended from a single progenitor (at least at the beginning of such things), thus clan is family and family is clan. So, either you are associated with a clan or you are not. If your family is indeed associated with a clan, that IS your family, and there is no need to design another tartan not approved by the chief of the clan. If you are not associated with/a sept of, etc a clan, you can make up anything you want. It will be known as a fashion tartan, not a clan tartan.

I think he means his immediate family. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I got.

[davedove]

Just how much would it cost to get your own tartan made? What would the minimum run be?

We have our own X-Marks tartan - so someone should know.

Anyone can design a tartan. There are many software packages to assist with this.

Now, to get that tartan officially registered, it will take a bit of time and money.

Matt Newsome will do this. He worked with me to design my new Dove tartan:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30139

Matt's website is:
http://www.albanach.org/

[Captain]

Your post is actually the one that got me thinking along these lines, which (of course) led me to Matt's services as well.

[Peter C.]

It is not a fashion tartan. Fashion tartans are designed to look pretty so that they will sell like all other fashion items.

It is possible to have a personal tartan registered. And you have designed this one for your family, so it will be your family tartan, nothing to do with the clans other than the inspiration for the basic pattern.

This is your family of todays tartan. You must feel a much stronger connection to this than to a tartan which only represents a part of your ancestry, or the place where they lived.

I love it. You go for it.

Peter

[macwilkin]

This is your family of todays tartan. You must feel a much stronger connection to this than to a tartan which only represents a part of your ancestry, or the place where they lived.

No disrespect to Captain, but I think many of us who wear clan and/or district tartans feel a strong connection to our ancestors; I know for myself, I certainly do when I wear my clan tartan, as well as when I wear my Iowa tartan, since my Scottish ancestors immigrated there.

I don't think it's a competition between the older tartans and the newer ones as to which type has the stronger connection. It's all a matter of how the individual feels.

Regards,

Todd

[Bryan]

...I think many of us who wear clan and/or district tartans feel a strong connection to our ancestors...

That may be true, but I would hope you feel more of a "connection" to your immediate family members than those that have been gone for centuries.

[Captain]

No disrespect to Captain, but I think many of us who wear clan and/or district tartans feel a strong connection to our ancestors; I know for myself, I certainly do when I wear my clan tartan, as well as when I wear my Iowa tartan, since my Scottish ancestors immigrated there.

I don't think it's a competition between the older tartans and the newer ones as to which type has the stronger connection. It's all a matter of how the individual feels.

Oh it's not a competition at all, and I feel a great connection to my ancestors, which I'm guessing will be a lot stronger once I have my kilt in the Cian tartan to wear around (which is currently on order with Matt Newsome). I don't want to take away from sense of pride or connection for me or any one else... my words last night came from frustration and may have seemed overly harsh on the Clan system in general, which was not my intent... I was merely trying to point out that the connection to my immediate family is much stronger and that I would like to have a tartan to connect to them.

[Peter C.]

No disrespect to Captain, but I think many of us who wear clan and/or district tartans feel a strong connection to our ancestors; I know for myself, I certainly do when I wear my clan tartan, as well as when I wear my Iowa tartan, since my Scottish ancestors immigrated there.

I don't think it's a competition between the older tartans and the newer ones as to which type has the stronger connection. It's all a matter of how the individual feels.

Regards,

Todd

Todd,

You have taken a small part of my posting out of context.

Captain wants to design a tartan for his modern family, which he can do and he can have it registered. As you say it is how the individual feels, and that is how he feels.

gilmore seemed to be suggesting that Captain shouldn't do that and rather than saying something negative to gilmore, I just gave Captain some moral support.

Of course it is not a competition between older and newer tartans. Indeed my favorite tartan and the only one I have strong connections to is from the 18th century. If my family today designed it's own tartan, (I have no desire to do that) I would certainly feel closer to it than any other tartan. Maybe you wouldn't but as you say it's all a matter of how the individual feels.

So I am sorry if my statement upset you but I was just referring to Captains situation. I don't quite know how you can read into that, that I was suggesting that some people did not have strong connections to their clan tartans.

Anyone who has read the posts on xmarks for a couple of days can see how strongly people feel about their clan connections and clan tartans. I think all of us, even those without any connections, respect that.

Anyway I apologize again.

Peter

[macwilkin]

Todd,

You have taken a small part of my posting out of context.

Captain wants to design a tartan for his modern family, which he can do and he can have it registered. As you say it is how the individual feels, and that is how he feels.

gilmore seemed to be suggesting that Captain shouldn't do that and rather than saying something negative to gilmore, I just gave Captain some moral support.

Of course it is not a competition between older and newer tartans. Indeed my favorite tartan and the only one I have strong connections to is from the 18th century. If my family today designed it's own tartan, (I have no desire to do that) I would certainly feel closer to it than any other tartan. Maybe you wouldn't but as you say it's all a matter of how the individual feels.

So I am sorry if my statement upset you but I was just referring to Captains situation. I don't quite know how you can read into that, that I was suggesting that some people did not have strong connections to their clan tartans.

Anyone who has read the posts on xmarks for a couple of days can see how strongly people feel about their clan connections and clan tartans. I think all of us, even those without any connections, respect that.

Anyway I apologize again.

Peter

Peter,

No worries -- you are quite right; after reading this post, and re-reading your original post, I see where you're going.

I certainly support Captain's efforts to design a tartan for his immediate family.

I'm afraid Bryan took my comment about my strong ties to my ancestors out of context as well; My immediate family inspires my connection to my ancestors, as well as my wife's French Cajun heritage.

I'll blame it on not enough coffee.

Cheers,

Todd

[Bryan]

Peter,

No worries -- you are quite right; after reading this post, and re-reading your original post, I see where you're going.

I certainly support Captain's efforts to design a tartan for his immediate family.

I'm afraid Bryan took my comment about my strong ties to my ancestors out of context as well; My immediate family inspires my connection to my ancestors, as well as my wife's French Cajun heritage.

I'll blame it on not enough coffee.

Cheers,

Todd

I may have and for that I apologize.

Bryan