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    Quote Originally Posted by MacHenderson View Post
    Do you know who the king was? If you can find a clan affiliated with that king, then the fact that Richard Huyshe used to hang out with him may be enough of a connection for the Huish name to be considered a sept of the king's clan. (If he has one.)
    This is taken from Richard Hywish Pedgree (bloody long those things are..lol)

    "Helen married Hulbert de Huese a titled person of Normandy and companion of King William, and was given extensive lands, among those were estates in Devon"

    So I would then look for King Williams (William the Conqueror) colors?, or was that before tartans and kilts? The time of this was around 1040 something A.D.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Homestead View Post
    So I would then look for King Williams (William the Conqueror) colors?, or was that before tartans and kilts? The time of this was around 1040 something A.D.

    Cheers!
    How fantastic to be able trace your family back so far. But in answer to your question, Yes, that is long before kilts of any form were worn in Scotland.

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    Jake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Homestead View Post
    This is taken from Richard Hywish Pedgree (bloody long those things are..lol)

    "Helen married Hulbert de Huese a titled person of Normandy and companion of King William, and was given extensive lands, among those were estates in Devon"

    So I would then look for King Williams (William the Conqueror) colors?, or was that before tartans and kilts? The time of this was around 1040 something A.D.

    Cheers!
    Sorry to break the news to you, but most of the claims of ancestors having been "Companions of the Conqueror," that is, to have come from Normandy to England with William I, are bogus.

    It has long been known that the Battle Roll at Battle Abbey was a forgery, the gentle monks there having accepted "donations" for hundreds of years to add names to the Roll. Likewise, the Failaise Roll in France is bloated with names of people who never laid eyes on William.

    Here is a list of those who with any degree of certainty at all can be said to have fought with William at Hastings. They are only twenty in number:

    "The following is an excerpt from Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, rev.
    ed., vol. XII, postscript to Appendix L, pp. 47-48: 'Companions of the
    Conqueror' (regarding the 1066 Battle of Hastings). These are the proven
    companions of William.

    1. Robert de Beaumont, later first Earl of Leicester.
    2. Eustace, Count of Boulogne.
    3. William, afterwards third Count of Evreux.
    4. Geoffrey of Mortagne, afterwards Count of Perche.
    5. William Fitz Osbern, afterwards first Earl of Hereford.
    6. Aimeri, Vicomte of Thouars.
    7. Hugh de Montfort, seigneur of Montfort-sur-Risle.
    8. Walter Giffard, seigneur of Longueville.
    9. Ralph de Toeni, seigneur of Conches.
    10. Hugh de Grandmesil, seigneur de Grandmesnil.
    11. William de Warenne, afterwards first Earl of Surrey.
    12. William Malet, seigneur of Graville.
    13. Eudes, Bishop of Bayeux, afterwards Earl of Kent.
    14. Turstin Fitz Rou.
    15. Engenulf de Laigle, seigneur of Laigle.
    (#1-12 recorded by William of Poitiers, #13 portrayed in the battle
    scene on the Bayeux Tapestry, #14-15 named by Orderic.)


    Five more who were certainly in the Duke's army and almost certainly
    at the battle:


    16. Geoffrey de Mowbray, Bishop of Coutances.
    17. Robert, Count of Mortain, afterwards first Earl of Cornwall.
    18. Wadard, believed to be a follower of the Bishop of Bayeux.
    19. Vital, believed to be a follower of the Bishop of Bayeux.
    20. Goubert d'Auffay, seigneur of Auffay.


    (#16 named by William of Poitiers, #17-19 portrayed in the Bayeux
    Tapestry, #20 said by Orderic to have taken part in the English War before
    William became King of England.)"

    For a rather thorough and knowledgeable discussion see "Who Really Came With William The Conqueror In 1066?" http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...941b22fce0f8a4
    Last edited by gilmore; 10th September 07 at 12:36 PM.

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