I would like to visit Canada

**Kilted Stuart** · 28th September 07, 08:35 PM

Jock Scot,
A lot of our hunting using dogs is for flushing or pointing upland game birds like Pheasant etc. They are also used for retrieving downed ducks from a blind over water and on the ground. There mostly used in ones or two's but I don't think your allowed to flush and chase foxes with packs of dogs. We have lots of hunting (shooting) oportuities all over Canada for anything from Moose to Deer, ducks to Geese. All of these require the proper license and tags to control the hunt. We are very much into controlling what we take to keep a balance of the numbers in the wild so we don't alter the balance of migratory and resident birds and game, we like to have them for years to come , not kill them all off. So they assess how many are around, what the total population is and how the last few years have been for them in the winter and how well they have reproduced. Then a proper number of tags (moose and Deer), or a limited open season (and # per person per season) you are allowed to take( seasons for different duck species, geese and upland field birds).
I don't hunt but I know of many that do, and I do enjoy a good feast of wild game from time to time. As long as it's controlled and is used to keep populations of an animal (sometimes there are so many deer around they are a serious threat to drivers on our highways) in check ,I'm O.k with it.

Kilted Stuart

**ccga3359** · 28th September 07, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kilted Stuart

Jock Scot,
A lot of our hunting using dogs is for flushing or pointing upland game birds like Pheasant etc. They are also used for retrieving downed ducks from a blind over water and on the ground. There mostly used in ones or two's but I don't think your allowed to flush and chase foxes with packs of dogs. We have lots of hunting (shooting) oportuities all over Canada for anything from Moose to Deer, ducks to Geese. All of these require the proper license and tags to control the hunt. We are very much into controlling what we take to keep a balance of the numbers in the wild so we don't alter the balance of migratory and resident birds and game, we like to have them for years to come , not kill them all off. So they assess how many are around, what the total population is and how the last few years have been for them in the winter and how well they have reproduced. Then a proper number of tags (moose and Deer), or a limited open season (and # per person per season) you are allowed to take( seasons for different duck species, geese and upland field birds).
I don't hunt but I know of many that do, and I do enjoy a good feast of wild game from time to time. As long as it's controlled and is used to keep populations of an animal (sometimes there are so many deer around they are a serious threat to drivers on our highways) in check ,I'm O.k with it.

Kilted Stuart

Any idea if the are lotteries on licenses? It would be a shame for David to come up only to find that he can't get a licence.

**Archangel** · 28th September 07, 08:44 PM

I'm pretty sure they don't have a lottery for duck. My co-worker was discussing this last week. He had to renew his permit. It looked like maybe two, a general outdoor one and a specific fowl one. I seem to recall that the deer had a limitation, first come, first served.

Best to double-check.

I'll see the meat harvesters on Monday if you want me to ask anything specific.

**Jock Scot** · 29th September 07, 01:40 AM

Ok chaps I understand your terminology now.Many thanks.We have the same problems here with sensitivities over "hunting".

Apart from having to get our firearms licenced by our local police(a must) and getting a game licence(few bother about this) all you have to do is get permission from a land owner and go.Well,actually it does not quite work out that way.For example,I had 10 people(called "guns") shooting grouse here yesterday,they shot 90 brace(180) and paid me a sum to do so.We have no bag limits,it is left to our discretion.We do have seasons though.

**David Thornton** · 29th September 07, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Ok you chaps,just humour a poor old Scot for a wee while.Our(British)idea of hunting is with a pack of hounds,say 15 couple( ie 30),and a "field" of up to 150 people mounted on horses.We call shooting, well er,shooting.Is this what you chaps call hunting?

Jack, it is what I think you call rough shooting. A hunter or group of hunters set decoys on known flights for waterfowl or in feeding fields (where permission is given) to draw waterfowl near enough for effective shotgunning. Upland hunting is similarly sized groups, with pointing dogs, searching the prairies for prairie chickens & huns, or woodlots for the guys in the east for ruff grouse.

No active riding to the hounds in Canada that I am aware of, I happen to live in one of the real hotbeds of proper hunting that you are familiar with. However, coyotes have replaced the fox for quarry.

And no driven shoots either, again that I am familiar with.

I could be easily convinced to visit a shoot in Scotland, and would love a bit of rough shooting, maybe even a couple of days stalking.

David

**Jock Scot** · 29th September 07, 10:20 AM

It sounds as though your forms of "hunting"are just like our shooting.Although, I rather suspect that we have more formal driven shoots here.

**Archangel** · 29th September 07, 07:17 PM

Driven shoots: might be a language thing here. I understand it to be against the law to hunt from a vehicle, or a plane, not sure about horse but you can't use it to chase. Again there's very strict limitations and penalties.

You can't see a moose from a plane and land near it. You can, however, call your buddy and he can "find" it, as long as he didn't see from the air. You didn't read this.

**The Wizard of BC** · 29th September 07, 07:54 PM

Archangel, Your last post is a very good reason for helicopters over airplanes.
They can provide a stable platform while hunting, have heat and cover so you don't need to suffer needlessly, and have sling lift capability to tote out your kill.
Of course 30mm cannons don't leave much to put on the table but the tracers are very satisfying to watch travel down range.

**Archangel** · 29th September 07, 08:44 PM

I always feel guilty watching the chain gun video and really hope they're training exercises but I doubt it.

I've tried to quit.

BTW, I'm sure helicopters would be confiscated too. (Maybe they should get a few and donate to the VanDoos. I used to work on the LAVIIIs but went back to choochoos. I know the guys building them are all dedicated but the vehicles can't keep up with the escalation.)(Okay, way off topic now, sorry.)

**Jock Scot** · 29th September 07, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Archangel

Driven shoots: might be a language thing here. I understand it to be against the law to hunt from a vehicle, or a plane, not sure about horse but you can't use it to chase. Again there's very strict limitations and penalties.

You can't see a moose from a plane and land near it. You can, however, call your buddy and he can "find" it, as long as he didn't see from the air. You didn't read this.

Yes you are correct,it is yet another language thing.I think?