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11th November 07, 12:48 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by wsk
Yeah. What he said.
I did six years in the Navy punching holes in the ocean. I got a good conduct ribbon - this despite certain in-your-face comments to the captain that kept me from getting to E5 when I should have. I got a marksmanship ribbon with the E device because it was so cold that day that I couldn't twitch the trigger. I got a Battle E ribbon because the ship was efficient (twice). And I got a Navy Sea Service Ribbon for punching the aforementioned holes.
Woo who.
But I also got my Dolphins and Detergent Patrol Pin. These I wear on Veterans Day because these mean something to me. The earning of them made me one of that special group of men who go down in the sea in submarines.
I think it's important for all who have done military service to, on these celebratory days, wear something that shows that we did do good service. Not so much for civilians, they don't understand, but for each other. Who knows, you might find a new friend.
But am I Veteran. Nah. I joined the Navy for absolutely selfish reasons. There was no sacrifice on my part. Besides: "We can't all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by." -- Will Rogers (for whom, by the way, my submarine was named)
Ah... a fellow submariner. Check the signature line. No pocket rocket here though... fast attack tough all the way. Probably won't ever get the chance to go 3 knots to no where.
I sport my fish as a kilt pin on occasion, and wear them on my cavalier hat at Ren faires.
 Originally Posted by kiltimabar
I've heard some vets sneer at the National Defense Service Medal (given to everyone who serves during a period of national emergency, even if you don't see any combat or even overseas service at all). I never do, even though I did serve in combat.
The NDSM shows that one either 1) volunteered to serve or 2) responded willingly when the nation called. By doing so he (or she) took on all the risks that might come his way, served where he was sent to go, and did what he was sent to do, whether it was combat or not. Same for the Good Conduct Medal, even if the time wasn't in an emergency.
All gave some, some gave all.
So I would encourage all who may only have one medal, to wear it proudly. I'll shake your hand, brother.
Not only do I have the MDSM, I have a bronze star on the puppy. That signifies that I have earned it not once, but twice. I'm but a month short of hitting my 14 year mark. I volunteered and I am still making the sacrifices that come with the job.
Additionally, I have earned in my time in the Navy the following awards:
Advanced to E6 in a little over 6 years (put it on in June '00).
I've earned 1 Battle Efficiency, 2 Navy and Marine Corps Achievement medals, Good Conduct medal with 3 bronze stars (signifies 4 awards), Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, a Sea Service ribbon with 2 bronze stars (3 awards total), the Arctic Service ribbon (I really want to add the Antarctic Service Ribbon), and two Navy Exhibitionary Medals.
I hardly ever wear any of them, as my job never has me in a uniform that calls for them. I never wear them in civilian clothes, as I find it a bit gaudy. And in my entire career, I've managed to dodge ever having to don Full Dress Blues.
My hope is to eventually get the USN tartan Hillwalker kilt from Alexis Malcolm, and get permission to hit up a Submarine Birthday Ball in my Dinner Dress White jacket with the kilt. THAT would be a sweet ensemble.
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11th November 07, 01:01 PM
#2
Getting back on topic -- Alex's thread about Remembrance Sunday in Hawick has a lot of good photos of ex-servicemen wearing their goings with mufti:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/r...148/index.html
I don't see how any one could accuse these gentlemen of being "gaudy".
Lest we forget,
Todd
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11th November 07, 03:30 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by BLAZN
Ah... a fellow submariner. Check the signature line. No pocket rocket here though... fast attack tough all the way. Probably won't ever get the chance to go 3 knots to no where.
I sport my fish as a kilt pin on occasion, and wear them on my cavalier hat at Ren faires.
There are several of us bubbleheads here though you are the only one who seems to want to divide us into the separate camps as if one were inherently better than the other.
I had a jeweler copy my Dolphins and Detergent Patrol Pin in sterling to serve as kilt pins on a kilt made from the Polaris tartan. Someday when I have the dollars....
 Originally Posted by BLAZN
... two Navy Exhibitionary Medals.
Really? And what were you exhibiting?
Perhaps you ought not answer that in polite company.
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19th November 07, 02:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BLAZN
... two Navy Exhibitionary Medals.
Really? And what were you exhibiting?
That's too funny.....Too many Navy jokes from that one, so I'll just keep them to myself....Go Army!!!!I did my "exhibitions" in Desert Storm and OIF....I'm sitting on my 20 but have bigger goals....must make E-9. I'll do 30.
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19th November 07, 05:55 PM
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 Originally Posted by wsk
There are several of us bubbleheads here though you are the only one who seems to want to divide us into the separate camps as if one were inherently better than the other.
By no means do I mean to split us up. I made the fast attack comment out of jest. Truth be told, I'd jump through flaming hoops if they'd let me go to a Trident!
 Originally Posted by wsk
I had a jeweler copy my Dolphins and Detergent Patrol Pin in sterling to serve as kilt pins on a kilt made from the Polaris tartan. Someday when I have the dollars....
I would love to see photos of that! Do you have the two insignia as one pin, with the Patrol Pin below the Dolphins?
 Originally Posted by wsk
Really? And what were you exhibiting?
Perhaps you ought not answer that in polite company.

Yeah... you're a submariner. Making jest at someone else's faux pas. For whatever reason, my brain thought Expeditionary, but my fingers typed Exhibitionary. Oops... my bad. 
 Originally Posted by SingleBarrelBourbon
I am a plankowner of my second boat,the New York City (SSN696), a Los Angeles class attack boat.
I'm on my third 688 (2 I boats and 1 fairwatered boat). #1 was USS Toledo (SSN 769), #2 was USS Honolulu (SSN 718) and I'm now serving on USS Santa FE (SSN 763). I showed up to the Toledo 10 months after commisioning.
 Originally Posted by SingleBarrelBourbon
I have contacted A-Hay about having a sporran made with a set of dolphins. It has been a while and I have to get back to him.
That sounds awesome. I might have to try my hands at tooling some fish into some leather.
 Originally Posted by SingleBarrelBourbon
I did take a spare set of dolphins and attached them to a black kilt buckle I purchased from Jerry at SWK. It looks good when I wear it with my Nightstalker.
PHOTOS!!
 Originally Posted by SingleBarrelBourbon
As soon as I get the funds together, I will be speaking with Alexis about an 8-yarder Polaris tartan. She can have hat pins made with a first class crow or other rates.
I'm bound and determined to get the USN Hillwalker, a nicely matched formal sporran, and a matched fly... all to go with my dinner dress white jacket next time Sub Ball rolls around (and I can go, and I can afford the afore mentioned attire {I do have the jacket already}).
 Originally Posted by SingleBarrelBourbon
Sorry for getting off topic. I wear my dolphins and patrol pin on a vest when I am riding my Harley. I ride with the American Legion Riders, Patriot Guard Riders, other members of the USSVI, and have ridden the Run For The Wall (California to DC) the past three years. I count as friends (and family) vets from WWII to today's conflicts. Too many funerals in the past two years, but we are there to support those who make the ultimate sacrifice for all of us.
Indeed. I've already said I wear my Dolphins outside of my uniform. I have zero issue at all with one wearing medals in the same fashion. I simply choose to limit myself to the Dolphins. They're about the only thing I feel I had to work for, though I suppose I did have to work to get my NAMs.
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6th December 07, 02:43 PM
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Quite an interesting thread. I've learned quite a bit.
I will say that US Army retirees are authorized to wear the uniform and also it's accoutrements any day of the year.
Last edited by Don Patrick; 7th December 07 at 10:49 AM.
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