Irish Tartans Questions

**macwilkin** · 29th November 07, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by porrick

I agree, but if you read my post you'll see I make a general statement.

Respectfully, the last two or three replies to this topic just proves the point - also for this thread...

and I thank everybody here on X-Marks for lots of great input and constructive debates. I am ready to move on now.
Thanks again -and happy kilting

I guess I'm just not getting your point and why you want to move on so quickly. People can disagree without being disagreeable. My apologies.

T.

**porrick** · 29th November 07, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

I guess I'm just not getting your point and why you want to move on so quickly. People can disagree without being disagreeable. My apologies.

T.

Don't worry, nothing to do with your posting.

I've seen the direction things are moving for a while, and I'd much rather bow out gracefully and in high spirits; I leave in peace and have no unsettled scores with anyone, nor do I bear any grudges to anyone linked to this forum.
I will still recommend X-Marks to potential members. That I at the same time bow out is personal, but nothing negative to be said.

PS
I can't find anywhere to unenroll myself from the forum. Would you be kind enough to help?
Thanks

**Andrew Breecher** · 30th November 07, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by Gàidhlig

I think the key to my situation is that there doeasn't seem to be any "Official" tartans for my wifes family. There seem to be tartans for the irish counties, but If I read everyones posts correctly, how "official" those are varies from county to county without much importance to the county itself to declare an official tartan should there not be one because the Irish didn't really have tartans to begin with.

There are two sets of Irish county tartans in general distribution. One is made by House of Edgar, and I tend to like these better. The other is the County Crest collection. You could choose either one, based on whether you like it better. The County Crest tartans are designed based on the colours in the coat of arms for each county (which also tend to be the colours of the football uniforms of the county teams). I'm not sure what the design rationale was for the House of Edgar tartans.

Does that clear things up? I don't think so. Anyway, I have a kilt made in the House of Edgar County Longford tartan, since my family is from (and still lives in) Longford. I like it a lot, and it makes me feel like I have a good tie to the family, even though it isn't "official."

Andrew.

**rickmac15** · 30th November 07, 01:31 AM

see I 've been telling you for years there are no simple answers.

**DireStraitsFan** · 30th November 07, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by porrick

Don't worry, nothing to do with your posting.

I've seen the direction things are moving for a while, and I'd much rather bow out gracefully and in high spirits; I leave in peace and have no unsettled scores with anyone, nor do I bear any grudges to anyone linked to this forum.
I will still recommend X-Marks to potential members. That I at the same time bow out is personal, but nothing negative to be said.

PS
I can't find anywhere to unenroll myself from the forum. Would you be kind enough to help?
Thanks

That's too bad. And I think I understand what you are hinting at, which is also sad.

**Riverkilt** · 30th November 07, 09:42 PM

Hey, I've a very similar problem. Have a Taft line that goes back to Matthew Taft from County Louthe who came over in the 1600s. No Taft tartan (that I've found) the County Louthe tartan looks very very close to the Irish National and Ireland's Nationals and I already have the later.

One thing I did was go with what Steve Ashton mentioned, the saffron kilt. Think the saffron kilt is pretty much accepted as an "Irish" kilt and it sure sets off any green accessories.

The Utilikilts Caramel Workman's is a color pretty close to saffron but not sure how it'd be for a lady.

And, if someone hasn't mentioned it yet you can design your own tartan and have it woven up.

Or a bit more research into the family tree just may turn up a lurking Scotsman.

Ron

**TheKiltedWonder** · 30th November 07, 09:53 PM

I must say, I'm a fan of the saffron and it makes the whole process so much easer

**slohairt** · 30th November 07, 10:56 PM

Most of the Irish tartans, be they Marton Mills County Crest Collection or HOE Irish County series, are copyrighted designs. I wonder if this prevents various Irish government organisations from officially recognising them.

**Mike S** · 1st December 07, 02:27 AM

So how about those Welsh Tartans?

I kid, I kid.

**Cage** · 1st December 07, 07:47 AM

So the County Crest and Irish County are different designs. Can someone point me to a link where I can view the County Crest design? All the County ones I find seem to be HOE's. My google lead me to believe MMCC was their mean line, but their site doesn't show their Highland Mean line.