I apologize if this is innap, I need to release steam

[beloitpiper]

I'm pretty upset you had this problem, too. But you are not alone. We have all gone though discrimination on some level. It may be as small as a snide comment in a bar to as large as not being allowed to wear them at work or school. BUT, I have found that the best way to deal with it is to discuss it, be a gentleman about the situation, and SHOW them how good, fashionable, and, I guess in your case, conservative a kilt can be. Again, don't change yourself for them, so I don't want to tell you how to wear the kilt, but if you wear it with pride and dignity, then it will show.

Oh, and as a little post-script, it doesn't matter how many of few posts you have. You are a member here, and as such we treat you with as much respect and dignity as anybody else on the board. Welcome to Clan X-Marks.

[JamieKerr]

Allow me to answer some questions.

Firstly, I do not perceive the kilt as gay. I would have to say the kilt is about as manly as it gets in terms of dress! I wear my kilt as traditionally as possible, and I do so to honor my heritage. I also wear that one piece of clothing as traditionally as possible to honor all of you, a sort of brethren, as well.

Secondly. As was already mentioned by someone else, I do fully expect to hear negative remarks when I wear "odd" garments. I am very accustomed to being referred to by any and all slurs you can possibly think of. I am not, however, used to hearing them from people I know so well (or thought I did). My anger and hurt comes from the fact that I have worked in this office for 5 years now, and this is the first time I have ever been degraded in this fashion (knowingly). The real sting is the result of thinking that I knew these people, and that I could enjoy a certain level of acceptance amongst them. When I am referred to by any one of a million slurs by those I don't know, I have no problem shrugging them off. Those people don't know me, and so their words mean nothing.

[ccga3359]

Thank you for the correction.i don't know what sort of councelling you work place does but I'm rather shocked at the attidude of management and staff. I'm in no way religous but I'm offended that a Chaplain may not wear a cross nor a Jew his yamulka. It sounds that a kilt does not have a snowball's chance. I don't know US laws but I'm sure these are contravening rights and freedoms. All these were started by the same individual in a similar line of work. Somewhere here you may find very important information. Ignore any posts made by me, I'm there for smart-aleck retorts only.

Here are acouple of threads about wearing kilts at work.
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ork+supervisor
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/h...ork+supervisor
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/d...ork+supervisor
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/m...ork+supervisor
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/m...ork+supervisor

[BoldHighlander]

My anger and hurt comes from the fact that I have worked in this office for 5 years now, and this is the first time I have ever been degraded in this fashion (knowingly). The real sting is the result of thinking that I knew these people, and that I could enjoy a certain level of acceptance amongst them.

Betrayl always stings the worse.
If any good comes from it you now know the truth about where these individuals, and can move on from there.
At any rate I'm sorry as well that you had to experience this.

And if I haven't done so before:


...from the far nw corner of Washington state!

[Pleater]

Hello Jamie

The complainer probably has no real opinion on kilts - I get the feeling that they simply wanted to hurt you, and to show their power through their manipulation of the establishment and environment you work in.

I'd put money on their real aim being to get you to give them a show of just how angry and upset they have managed to make you, so I can only advise that you stay cool, calm and collected if/when the subject comes up.

I can't believe that anyone wanted to wear jeans to work so much that they would make such a fuss. Perhaps they have a problem with authority and dress codes.

Do keep it firmly in your thoughts that it is someone else who has the problem - you might even commiserate with the supervisors who have to deal with such petty 'office politics'.

[sharpdressedscot]

Allow me to answer some questions.

Firstly, I do not perceive the kilt as gay. I would have to say the kilt is about as manly as it gets in terms of dress! I wear my kilt as traditionally as possible, and I do so to honor my heritage. I also wear that one piece of clothing as traditionally as possible to honor all of you, a sort of brethren, as well.

Secondly. As was already mentioned by someone else, I do fully expect to hear negative remarks when I wear "odd" garments. I am very accustomed to being referred to by any and all slurs you can possibly think of. I am not, however, used to hearing them from people I know so well (or thought I did). My anger and hurt comes from the fact that I have worked in this office for 5 years now, and this is the first time I have ever been degraded in this fashion (knowingly). The real sting is the result of thinking that I knew these people, and that I could enjoy a certain level of acceptance amongst them. When I am referred to by any one of a million slurs by those I don't know, I have no problem shrugging them off. Those people don't know me, and so their words mean nothing.

I concurr with that last sentence, you don't need squat from anyone to be who you are. One of the lines I run by is: you are who you are, so be proud of it.