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10th February 08, 01:21 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Everyone repeat after me: The Campbells, as a clan, had nothing to do with the Glencoe Massacre.
Who was responsible? King William III, the Earl of Breadalbane and Sir John Dalrymple, Master of Stair were the organisers, while Captain Robert Campbell of Glenlyon carried the deed out with Government soldiers, not Campbell clansmen.
Breadalbane's motivation: revenge for raids conducted on Campbell land by the Glencoe MacDonalds. I wonder why that's never mentioned?  Also never mentioned is that a Campbell sheriff who administered MacIain of Glencoe's oath and then vouched for him to Stair and London.
Our own Sketraw's article on Glencoe can be found here:
http://www.clan-duncan.co.uk/duncanson-glencoe.html
Regards,
Todd
Thank you for this, Todd.
As a Donald I get absolutely sick of all the people who tell me 'You must hate all the Campbells! They are such horrible people! Blood never forgets!!!'
That said, I do love the two paintings posted.
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10th February 08, 01:44 PM
#2
Well I think that clears that up.
Never heard of this before.
Interesting articles.Thanks.
One thing I noticed about the painting was that the Artist seemed to imagine the kilts worn were somewhat like the modern kilts worn today.
Am I wrong in assuming this painting is later than the eighteen eightys?
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10th February 08, 02:00 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Tommie
Well I think that clears that up.
Never heard of this before.
Interesting articles.Thanks.
One thing I noticed about the painting was that the Artist seemed to imagine the kilts worn were somewhat like the modern kilts worn today.
Am I wrong in assuming this painting is later than the eighteen eightys?
No, that's about the right time period for that painting.
Around then the whole idea of what kilts used to look like and who wore them was a little... mixed up.
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10th February 08, 02:13 PM
#4
The painting is called "the Massacre of Glencoe" By James Hamilton. A part of the painting is used on the paperback penguin (1978) copy of John Prebble's "Glencoe" (I do believe it was recommended earlier in this thread, great book) According to the copy of the book I have, the painting hangs in the Glasgow Art Gallery and Museum. I don't know if it has been moved or not.
"There is one success- to be able to spend your life your own way."
~Christopher Morley
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10th February 08, 02:54 PM
#5
There is a pub/hotel in Glencoe (sorry I can't remember the name, but it was Gaelic and started with the letter 'C') where there hung a notice over the front door saying 'No dogs or Campbells allowed'. I visited it last summer but couldn't find the sign, so they must have removed it. Glencoe is a magnificent place to visit and I urge anyone in the area to do so. Did you know that the MacDonalds of Glencoe (or MacIans) were originally Hendersons, a name I'm closely associated with. Clan Donald obtained Chiefship of the clan through marriage.
The Kilt is my delight !
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10th February 08, 06:27 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by freddie
There is a pub/hotel in Glencoe (sorry I can't remember the name, but it was Gaelic and started with the letter 'C') where there hung a notice over the front door saying 'No dogs or Campbells allowed'. I visited it last summer but couldn't find the sign, so they must have removed it. Glencoe is a magnificent place to visit and I urge anyone in the area to do so. Did you know that the MacDonalds of Glencoe (or MacIans) were originally Hendersons, a name I'm closely associated with. Clan Donald obtained Chiefship of the clan through marriage.
I bet that was the same public house my brother-in-law worked at when he lived in Scotland. He tells of that same sign. I'll ask him the next time I talk to him.
T.
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10th February 08, 06:39 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by freddie
There is a pub/hotel in Glencoe (sorry I can't remember the name, but it was Gaelic and started with the letter 'C') where there hung a notice over the front door saying 'No dogs or Campbells allowed'.
Is it the King's House Hotel? (yes I know that doesn't start with a 'C' )
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10th February 08, 10:05 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by freddie
There is a pub/hotel in Glencoe (sorry I can't remember the name, but it was Gaelic and started with the letter 'C') where there hung a notice over the front door saying 'No dogs or Campbells allowed'. I visited it last summer but couldn't find the sign, so they must have removed it. Glencoe is a magnificent place to visit and I urge anyone in the area to do so. Did you know that the MacDonalds of Glencoe (or MacIans) were originally Hendersons, a name I'm closely associated with. Clan Donald obtained Chiefship of the clan through marriage.
I was just fixing to chime in and state the Henderson ties here. Actually, from what I understand, it was the female link that was a Henderson. So, this line is "half Henderson" so-to-speak. And, there were many Hendersons slaughtered at Glencoe. The "Big Henderson" was MacIan's bodyguard and fell beside him in the massacre.
Respectfully,
Bradley Henderson
Clan Henderson Society USA, Member #3495
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11th February 08, 02:42 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by freddie
There is a pub/hotel in Glencoe (sorry I can't remember the name, but it was Gaelic and started with the letter 'C') where there hung a notice over the front door saying 'No dogs or Campbells allowed'. I visited it last summer but couldn't find the sign, so they must have removed it. Glencoe is a magnificent place to visit and I urge anyone in the area to do so. Did you know that the MacDonalds of Glencoe (or MacIans) were originally Hendersons, a name I'm closely associated with. Clan Donald obtained Chiefship of the clan through marriage.
is it the Clachaig Inn ?
http://www.clachaig.com/
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11th February 08, 09:24 AM
#10
Certainly in the early 80’s there was a sign in the Clachaig which announced, ‘No Campbell’s served here’. It didn’t refer to soup either.
Main source:- NUNEATON MOUNTAINEERING CLUB - NEWSLETTER 16, February 2006.
Frank
Last edited by Highland Logan; 11th February 08 at 09:31 AM.
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